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Post by uncleb on Aug 22, 2024 9:57:54 GMT -6
the first two replies to my comment are the exact reason I really dont post on here much anymore. Most of you magas have zero ability to discuss things in a civil manner. smh
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Post by emerald on Aug 22, 2024 10:01:33 GMT -6
Unless you have assets of 100 million dollars or more, you wont have to worry about this. Really? There's no chance that something like this would send even more businesses and job opportunities overseas...? The common person has nothing to worry about even if Tesla or Space X leave America...? Dumb! Your response is dumb! If they want to move overseas, so be it. They already send their money overseas to avoid taxes. Let them go, but let them know the market in America is closed to them. You want to move your factory to China? Fine, sell your wares in China then. We have plenty of people hear that are willing and able to fill the slot you occupy. Move your shovel factory overseas, good luck dealing with foreign govts and their population. LOL The threat of moving is no threat at all. They'll move anyway if they can save a buck. Anything for profit. They don't care about America or it's people.
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Post by gotmewrong on Aug 22, 2024 10:01:44 GMT -6
Unless you have assets of 100 million dollars or more, you wont have to worry about this. But they'll declare it unfair because they love their billionaire masters. The wealthy duck every tax they can, off shoring, loopholes and borrowing at extremely low interest and then let that money sit and gather higher interest. The deck is stacked against common people and they know it. It's time to make an adjustment. Get rid of loopholes and force them to pay an accurate percentage. They already get advantages that regular folk can't get. It's time. So you want to steal money from rich people because you are jealous. How joyful.
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Post by emerald on Aug 22, 2024 10:03:05 GMT -6
Really? There's no chance that something like this would send even more businesses and job opportunities overseas...? The common person has nothing to worry about even if Tesla or Space X leave America...? Dumb! Your response is dumb! These people are braindead. Not to mention the fact that they don't seem to mind taxing people on money that doesn't exist. If it doesn't exist then they shouldn't be allowed to use it as collateral on cheap ass loans. Agreed?
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Post by gotmewrong on Aug 22, 2024 10:05:49 GMT -6
These people are braindead. Not to mention the fact that they don't seem to mind taxing people on money that doesn't exist. If it doesn't exist then they shouldn't be allowed to use it as collateral on cheap ass loans. Agreed? No. Tax and collateral are 2 completely different things. My God you are joyful. And retarded.
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Post by longtimereader on Aug 22, 2024 10:14:01 GMT -6
Unless you have assets of 100 million dollars or more, you wont have to worry about this. Hey Muppet, you know that was the same BS that was pimped for income tax, now we ALL pay income tax. You Muppets are dumb to the core.
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Post by gotscha on Aug 22, 2024 10:51:20 GMT -6
Unless you have assets of 100 million dollars or more, you wont have to worry about this. Hey Muppet, you know that was the same BS that was pimped for income tax, now we ALL pay income tax. You Muppets are dumb to the core. A tax on assets (that's what this really is) is the first step towards abolishing private ownership - especially private ownership of the means of production. Now where did we hear that concept? Oh yeah, it's the core belief behind socialism. ANYONE who thinks this tax on unrealized capital gains (aka 'wealth') won't eventually trickle down to everyone else is a moron. That's what 'trickle down' economics really means.
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Post by floridaanticub on Aug 22, 2024 10:55:10 GMT -6
Unless you have assets of 100 million dollars or more, you wont have to worry about this. You don't need $100M in assets to understand the catastrophic effects of economic depression and massive job losses. Nor to you need $100M to feel those effects.
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Post by floridaanticub on Aug 22, 2024 10:57:49 GMT -6
Unless you have assets of 100 million dollars or more, you wont have to worry about this. They said very similar things when the 16th Amendment was passed. "Only the very wealthy will pay it" and people like you believed them. This is worse than the 16th Amendment. This is literally government confiscation of assets. History has already spoken loudly about that topic. The results are tragic.
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Post by emerald on Aug 22, 2024 16:40:35 GMT -6
If it doesn't exist then they shouldn't be allowed to use it as collateral on cheap ass loans. Agreed? No. Tax and collateral are 2 completely different things. My God you are joyful. And retarded. They take loans so they don't have to pay taxes you dipshit. They take out huge low interest loans, then use part of it for their lavish lifestyle while piling up part of it in bonds and stocks at at higher interest returns. You and I don't have the money to get those low interest loans but billionaires have that shit load of collateral so they can. Then they literally show they didn't make any money so they aren't taxed. Then the things they do acquire gain value(usually, but sometimes idiots like Musk destroy the value) and those things are taxed at a lower rate when used or sold. It's a shell game that's been going on for a while.
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Post by emerald on Aug 22, 2024 16:41:26 GMT -6
Unless you have assets of 100 million dollars or more, you wont have to worry about this. Hey Muppet, you know that was the same BS that was pimped for income tax, now we ALL pay income tax. You Muppets are dumb to the core. Prove it dipshit.
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Post by emerald on Aug 22, 2024 16:44:39 GMT -6
Hey Muppet, you know that was the same BS that was pimped for income tax, now we ALL pay income tax. You Muppets are dumb to the core. A tax on assets (that's what this really is) is the first step towards abolishing private ownership - especially private ownership of the means of production. Now where did we hear that concept? Oh yeah, it's the core belief behind socialism. ANYONE who thinks this tax on unrealized capital gains (aka 'wealth') won't eventually trickle down to everyone else is a moron. That's what 'trickle down' economics really means. That's bullshit and you know it. It is redistribution of wealth, I'll grant you that, but so is Food Stamps, Social Security, Medicaid, etc. See, if the wealth isn't redistributed to some extent there would only be two classes of people, the ultra wealthy(Royalty) and the poor(Commoners). Nothing is sadder than listening to a commoner justify the hoard of the wealthy. Talk about who's the dumb ass muppet. LOL
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Post by gotmewrong on Aug 22, 2024 16:44:42 GMT -6
No. Tax and collateral are 2 completely different things. My God you are joyful. And retarded. They take loans so they don't have to pay taxes you dipshit. They take out huge low interest loans, then use part of it for their lavish lifestyle while piling up part of it in bonds and stocks at at higher interest returns. You and I don't have the money to get those low interest loans but billionaires have that shit load of collateral so they can. Then they literally show they didn't make any money so they aren't taxed. Then the things they do acquire gain value(usually, but sometimes idiots like Musk destroy the value) and those things are taxed at a lower rate when used or sold. It's a shell game that's been going on for a while. Get a job and then somebody might give you a loan. You're so jealous it's sad.
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Post by gotmewrong on Aug 22, 2024 16:45:52 GMT -6
A tax on assets (that's what this really is) is the first step towards abolishing private ownership - especially private ownership of the means of production. Now where did we hear that concept? Oh yeah, it's the core belief behind socialism. ANYONE who thinks this tax on unrealized capital gains (aka 'wealth') won't eventually trickle down to everyone else is a moron. That's what 'trickle down' economics really means. That's bullshit and you know it. It is redistribution of wealth, I'll grant you that, but so is Food Stamps, Social Security, Medicaid, etc. See, if the wealth isn't redistributed to some extent there would only be two classes of people, the ultra wealthy(Royalty) and the poor(Commoners). Nothing is sadder than listening to a commoner justify the hoard of the wealthy. Talk about who's the dumb ass muppet. LOL You're right. They need to cut social welfare by 95%. I never thought we would agree on anything. Big blue wave!!! LOLOLOL
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Post by emerald on Aug 22, 2024 16:51:24 GMT -6
They said very similar things when the 16th Amendment was passed. "Only the very wealthy will pay it" and people like you believed them. This is worse than the 16th Amendment. This is literally government confiscation of assets. History has already spoken loudly about that topic. The results are tragic. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_ConstitutionVery interesting. I would expect that an asshole like you would hate it, but it was ratified by the states so that's too bad. That's why tariffs aren't really very good, they tend to be paid for by the poor and middle class. The govt has to have money to operate. Progressive things must get done. I'm sure you'd like to get back to running your plantation and owning slaves.
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