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Post by cardiological on Aug 26, 2024 15:01:33 GMT -6
OH how cute cardio is carrying water for Harris. You mean by my agreeing that she looked incompetent? That’s an odd way to carry water. By the way, I’m still waiting for an example of my ignoring your requests to support my claims LTR. You’ve had weeks and have yet to provide a single example. You failed miserably.
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Post by keefdaman on Aug 26, 2024 15:08:57 GMT -6
I am sure all pols have mispoken before
I just do not get that "Had to keep Biden running to keep Trump out and has a knucklehead for a Veep
Then he drops out or more like forced out and in comes the knucklehead. Like she is the second coming of Jesus Christ
Just wait and see what happens. She is not very bright and will stay some stupid stuff. Then you can always count on Joe Biden making gaffes.
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Post by cardiological on Aug 26, 2024 15:09:29 GMT -6
Agreed, but you would be hard-pressed to find a presidential candidate or president who hasn’t similarly misspoken. Trump claimed when there were around 80,000 COVID deaths, and long before the vaccine, that his policies had saved well over two million lives. I’m not sure it was inadvertently misspeaking, but it was a ridiculous statement and he said it repeatedly. Whar a surprise. “Mr. Whatabout” finds a way to turn it to Trump. Every time. Good grief, moody, everybody at this forum engages in whataboutism. momof3 did just yesterday. Did that bother you? Find something meaningful to get your panties in a wad over.
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Post by momof3 on Aug 26, 2024 16:42:08 GMT -6
Maybe she wasn’t told to say it, but either way, she looks incompetent saying that, twice, on different occasions. Agreed, but you would be hard-pressed to find a presidential candidate or president who hasn’t similarly misspoken. Trump claimed when there were around 80,000 COVID deaths, and long before the vaccine, that his policies had saved well over two million lives. I’m not sure it was inadvertently misspeaking, but it was a ridiculous statement and he said it repeatedly. How do you, or anyone, know how many lives were saved? We were all locked down and staying away from each other. The situations where people got together in big groups anyway were called “super spreaders”, meaning a lot of people got Covid because they ignored the rules and had large gatherings. So how can you say it was a “ridiculous statement”? Harris was talking about how many people had died. That is a quantifiable number. And on TWO different occasions she said 220 million people had died. I can give her grace on the first one, but it’s hard to give her grace on the second one, seeing as how she was most likely told that she messed it up.
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Post by cardiological on Aug 26, 2024 17:01:24 GMT -6
Agreed, but you would be hard-pressed to find a presidential candidate or president who hasn’t similarly misspoken. Trump claimed when there were around 80,000 COVID deaths, and long before the vaccine, that his policies had saved well over two million lives. I’m not sure it was inadvertently misspeaking, but it was a ridiculous statement and he said it repeatedly. How do you, or anyone, know how many lives were saved? We were all locked down and staying away from each other. The situations where people got together in big groups anyway were called “super spreaders”, meaning a lot of people got Covid because they ignored the rules and had large gatherings. So how can you say it was a “ridiculous statement”? Harris was talking about how many people had died. That is a quantifiable number. And on TWO different occasions she said 220 million people had died. I can give her grace on the first one, but it’s hard to give her grace on the second one, seeing as how she was most likely told that she messed it up. Can you identify a single person in the universe who believes approximately six months into the COVID pandemic in the US that Trump had already saved over two million lives? Again, it was a ridiculous statement. Have I given him credit for Operation Warp Speed and the later vaccine availability? Absolutely. But that was months later. As far as the misstatements by Harris, what exactly does the word “AGREED” mean to you.
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Post by momof3 on Aug 26, 2024 17:10:17 GMT -6
How do you, or anyone, know how many lives were saved? We were all locked down and staying away from each other. The situations where people got together in big groups anyway were called “super spreaders”, meaning a lot of people got Covid because they ignored the rules and had large gatherings. So how can you say it was a “ridiculous statement”? Harris was talking about how many people had died. That is a quantifiable number. And on TWO different occasions she said 220 million people had died. I can give her grace on the first one, but it’s hard to give her grace on the second one, seeing as how she was most likely told that she messed it up. Can you identify a single person in the universe who believes approximately six months into the COVID pandemic in the US that Trump had already saved over two million lives? Again, it was a ridiculous statement. Have I given him credit for Operation Warp Speed and the later vaccine availability? Absolutely. But that was months later. As far as the misstatements by Harris, what exactly does the word “AGREED” mean to you. By May 27, 2020, we had already reached 100,000 Covid deaths. And that was with the country shut down and everyone social distancing. So, if we had not shut down, then by September of 2020, when you are say Trump made that comment, yes, it is completely feasible that 2 million lives had been saved.
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Post by cardiological on Aug 26, 2024 17:40:49 GMT -6
Can you identify a single person in the universe who believes approximately six months into the COVID pandemic in the US that Trump had already saved over two million lives? Again, it was a ridiculous statement. Have I given him credit for Operation Warp Speed and the later vaccine availability? Absolutely. But that was months later. As far as the misstatements by Harris, what exactly does the word “AGREED” mean to you. By May 27, 2020, we had already reached 100,000 Covid deaths. And that was with the country shut down and everyone social distancing. So, if we had not shut down, then by September of 2020, when you are say Trump made that comment, yes, it is completely feasible that 2 million lives had been saved. No, I didn’t say September. Trump made the statement in July and I believe again in August (when, IIRC, he upped the figure to 3-4 million.) July would have been approximately six months into the pandemic in the US, which is what I said.
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Post by stargatebabe on Aug 26, 2024 17:44:12 GMT -6
I seriously doubt she was “told” to say 220 million deaths. If you view the entire video from 2020 she goes on to say that 8 million had contracted the virus within that time frame (which makes it obviously impossible for 220 million to have died). She meant 220 thousand but had “millions” in her head and misspoke on a couple of occasions. Maybe she wasn’t told to say it, but either way, she looks incompetent saying that, twice, on different occasions. *ding, ding, ding* We have a winner!
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Post by momof3 on Aug 26, 2024 18:00:17 GMT -6
By May 27, 2020, we had already reached 100,000 Covid deaths. And that was with the country shut down and everyone social distancing. So, if we had not shut down, then by September of 2020, when you are say Trump made that comment, yes, it is completely feasible that 2 million lives had been saved. No, I didn’t say September. Trump made the statement in July and I believe again in August (when, IIRC, he upped the figure to 3-4 million.) July would have been approximately six months into the pandemic in the US, which is what I said. You said six months into the pandemic in our country. We locked down on March 15. Six months later is September. But even if he made the comment in July or August, like I said, we hit 100,000 deaths in the U.S. by May 27. If we had 100,000 deaths by then, then by July or August we could easily have had 2 million deaths had we not kept apart from each other.
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Post by gotmewrong on Aug 26, 2024 19:29:09 GMT -6
By May 27, 2020, we had already reached 100,000 Covid deaths. And that was with the country shut down and everyone social distancing. So, if we had not shut down, then by September of 2020, when you are say Trump made that comment, yes, it is completely feasible that 2 million lives had been saved. No, I didn’t say September. Trump made the statement in July and I believe again in August (when, IIRC, he upped the figure to 3-4 million.) July would have been approximately six months into the pandemic in the US, which is what I said. Trump shut down travel from Asia to the United States immediately (which was called xenophobic). For all anybody knows, that move potentially saved millions of lives. There is no way to prove it didn't. You should really let this one go.
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Post by cardiological on Aug 26, 2024 20:08:39 GMT -6
No, I didn’t say September. Trump made the statement in July and I believe again in August (when, IIRC, he upped the figure to 3-4 million.) July would have been approximately six months into the pandemic in the US, which is what I said. Trump shut down travel from Asia to the United States immediately (which was called xenophobic). For all anybody knows, that move potentially saved millions of lives. There is no way to prove it didn't. You should really let this one go. There is no way to prove he didn’t save 330 million lives. So we are left with logic, and logic suggests otherwise, including the folly of his claim. But we can agree to disagree. Have a good evening.
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Post by momof3 on Aug 26, 2024 20:31:30 GMT -6
Trump shut down travel from Asia to the United States immediately (which was called xenophobic). For all anybody knows, that move potentially saved millions of lives. There is no way to prove it didn't. You should really let this one go. There is no way to prove he didn’t save 330 million lives. So we are left with logic, and logic suggests otherwise, including the folly of his claim. But we can agree to disagree. Have a good evening. Two million people equates to less than one percent of the population of our country. Two hundred million people is 66% of our population. Trump’s claim is nothing compared to what Harris claimed…twice.
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Post by cardiological on Aug 26, 2024 20:40:43 GMT -6
Maybe she wasn’t told to say it, but either way, she looks incompetent saying that, twice, on different occasions. *ding, ding, ding* We have a winner! That wasn’t a contested issue. I agreed with momof3 that it made her look incompetent. But, again, just about every candidate has made misstatements, repeated misstatements, including the current Republican candidate.
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Post by moody on Aug 28, 2024 8:48:14 GMT -6
*ding, ding, ding* We have a winner! That wasn’t a contested issue. I agreed with momof3 that it made her look incompetent. But, again, just about every candidate has made misstatements, repeated misstatements, including the current Republican candidate. Always “whatabout” Trump from this poster when a democrat is criticized.
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Post by Billy John Davy on Aug 28, 2024 8:52:52 GMT -6
I am not going to say that she is stupid. I don’t think that you get this far being stupid. What she is though is a poisonous leach from the corrupt system. She is glad to be a mouthpiece for whatever she is told to say. This along with her upbringing by an openly Marxist father, gives her the ability to destroy America fully and replace it with something unrecognizable. Who needs a constitution when Marxists are elected into power? She is a lot more dangerous than stupid. her upper education is not proof of high intelligence, but you're correct she is dangerous. What makes her dangerous, she believes the DNC and all of the speakers at last week convention were being honest in their evaluations of Kamala's experience. I believe what makes her dangerous is similar to stupid people syndrome. She isnt smart, but surrounds herself with stupid yes men who tell her she is. She will viscously punish those who dont treat her as smart as she thinks she. She lacks the ability to think, to reason and to comprehend.
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