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Post by abuxb on Nov 20, 2024 16:17:15 GMT -6
I am well aware of your status Billy. Just making fun of this starbucks clown. What a narcissist, huh? and StarMel doesnt disclose the criteria for his grades. I think everyone agrees President Trump is appointing Change Agents to some positions such as AG, DNI and Sec Def. By the traditional standards of not disrupting the status quo in those positions, nominating a Change Agent would be inappropriate. President Trump is throwing out that old, outdated traditional manner. Some will say "you can drive change from within"; I submit soon to be former FBI director Chris Wray as evidence of that fallacy. He was a careerist; he was gonna get rid of the FISA corruption, the political targeting etc. He failed on all those. That is why I quoted Obama with my "elections have consequences" statement. When you say starmel, is this the old sappy melville from stl? |
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Post by Billy John Davy on Nov 20, 2024 16:18:19 GMT -6
and StarMel doesnt disclose the criteria for his grades. I think everyone agrees President Trump is appointing Change Agents to some positions such as AG, DNI and Sec Def. By the traditional standards of not disrupting the status quo in those positions, nominating a Change Agent would be inappropriate. President Trump is throwing out that old, outdated traditional manner. Some will say "you can drive change from within"; I submit soon to be former FBI director Chris Wray as evidence of that fallacy. He was a careerist; he was gonna get rid of the FISA corruption, the political targeting etc. He failed on all those. That is why I quoted Obama with my "elections have consequences" statement. When you say starmel, is this the old sappy melville from stl?Yep, I jammed his names together and got StarMel |
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Post by abuxb on Nov 20, 2024 16:26:14 GMT -6
She may have been suitable for some other role, but not National Security Advisor. Again, simply terrible judgement and utterly unsuitable for a National Security Advisor role. I guess its a good thing shes nominated for DNI not NSA Same old Melville. A leopard can't change its spots. Melville and facts just don't go together. Never have. |
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Post by abuxb on Nov 20, 2024 16:27:32 GMT -6
That is why I quoted Obama with my "elections have consequences" statement. When you say starmel, is this the old sappy melville from stl?Yep, I jammed his names together and got StarMel Political Stiff 2.0! |
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Post by abuxb on Nov 20, 2024 17:16:37 GMT -6
Well said, Brummer (and I also agree with str8shooter's post). The DOJ (and FBI) have become weaponized, corrupt and broken agencies. They need to be purged of political apparatchiks, downsized (we now have 90 separate federal law enforcement agencies!), and refocused on fighting crime, fighting foreign espionage inside America, focusing on FOREIGN terrorist threats (not targeting the peaceful Americans who are members of the opposition political party), and securing our border. The State Department, Defense Department, and three letter Deep State Intel agencies also need purging, downsizing, and reform. So the need of the "Justice" Department and intel agencies "to be purged of political apparatchiks" is best achieved by appointing partisan and unqualified political apparatchiks? Regrettably, that is the core of your position. I would prefer real reform - rather than simply copying the DEM playbook of the past 8 years. Those departments, for the good of the nation, need to be free from political gamesmanship. It is indeed ironic - as well as unpatriotic and hypocritical - for the very people who correctly identified and decried the politicization and weaponization of the government agencies via the appointment of corrupt garbagemen like Merrick Garland in order to support the political agenda of one man (Biden,) to now applaud loudly when one man (Trump) seeks to appoint unqualified partisan hacks such as Gaetz and Gabbard for exactly the same reason and in pursuit of exactly the same goal. Politicization and weaponization is equally corrupt and dangerous regardless of which president practices it. I require better. Same old dazed and confused Melville as you were years ago on the P-D forums. You still don't understand how these agencies operate and how important it is to rid the agencies of ALL the bureaucrats who infest them, and who are a cancer to the entire Government apparatus. The agencies need to be dismantled and rebuilt in such a fashion that their agenda is completely removed. |
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Post by abuxb on Nov 20, 2024 17:21:15 GMT -6
you're not gonna beleive this, but your premise is flawed, probably fatally flawed. you seem to think Trump's new DOJ will do what Sundowner's did, target his politial enemies. Trump /Gaetz wont be going after some potential 2028 candidate, they will be going after those in Justice and IC who have alread commited wrongs against America and the Constitution based on their abuse of authority powers. Trump has made several good selections. But it is obvious Gaetz and Gabbard - neither of whom is qualified for the selected post - were selected to protect Trump's flank by torpedoing any and all efforts to investigate him. These are political appointments designed to weaponize these departments in order to pursue Trump's personal agenda. Trump is well justified in being highly suspicious of the sewer rats inside the "Justice" Department and intel agencies. Gaetz and Gabbard - unlike RFK Jr., Musk, Ramaswamy, and others - were not selected to be reformers (and reform is indeed needed). They are back bench, unprincipled, partisan hacks whose sole assignment is to protect Trump - against valid and invalid investigations. Surely fair-minded individuals can agree that the justice department and the intel services are simply too crucial to the stability and well-being of our nation to be put into the hands of 2 people who have a long track record of self-interest and poor judgement. Those defending these 2 selections are endorsing doing exactly what Biden did with Garland - even though they refuse to admit it. Once again dazed and confused applies to Melville when it comes to reading the tea leaves of Government. If only you could understand the difference between Biden's going after his political opponents vs Trump's prosecuting criminals for crimes already committed. I know. It's above your pay grade, Mel. |
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Post by Starbuck on Nov 20, 2024 19:20:24 GMT -6
So the need of the "Justice" Department and intel agencies "to be purged of political apparatchiks" is best achieved by appointing partisan and unqualified political apparatchiks? Regrettably, that is the core of your position. I would prefer real reform - rather than simply copying the DEM playbook of the past 8 years. Those departments, for the good of the nation, need to be free from political gamesmanship. It is indeed ironic - as well as unpatriotic and hypocritical - for the very people who correctly identified and decried the politicization and weaponization of the government agencies via the appointment of corrupt garbagemen like Merrick Garland in order to support the political agenda of one man (Biden,) to now applaud loudly when one man (Trump) seeks to appoint unqualified partisan hacks such as Gaetz and Gabbard for exactly the same reason and in pursuit of exactly the same goal. Politicization and weaponization is equally corrupt and dangerous regardless of which president practices it. I require better. Same old dazed and confused Melville as you were years ago on the P-D forums. You still don't understand how these agencies operate and how important it is to rid the agencies of ALL the bureaucrats who infest them, and who are a cancer to the entire Government apparatus. The agencies need to be dismantled and rebuilt in such a fashion that their agenda is completely removed. Appreciate your post above - though I never engage in counterproductive personal invective on this forum. Others are of course free to do so, but I find it not worthy of my time and simply refuse to respond in kind. Staying on topic is all I will ever do here. Throughout this thread I have been clear that reform is needed, and I would very much like to see the Trump administration succeed in reducing and eliminating the politicization and weaponization of the government agencies. Many of his named appointees have been excellent. But not all. Gaetz and Gabbard are long-time self-serving political hacks. They were not selected to introduce reform. Both were appointed to weaponize and politicize agencies which Trump is (rightfully) fearful of. The answer to the current politicization of the justice department and intel agencies is not going to be found by simply repeating the abuses and practices of the past 8+ years. It will simply continue the cycle through future administrations - both DEM and REP. America deserves and needs independent, honest, consistent, non-political Justice Department and intel agencies. Gaetz and Gabbard would do the precise opposite. Now, the objection to Hegseth for the Defense Department is another thing altogether. He is simply ridiculously unqualified - and the is extremely dangerous to the country. Bottom line. Anyone who truly desires to see real systemic change and reform of the DC sewer system should take a clear-eyed view at the people Trump is selecting - endorsing the good choices while rejecting the bad ones. These 3 are simply bad choices and the Senate should do the right thing for the nation by rejecting them. Which would be doing Trump a huge favor by protecting him from one of his greatest weaknesses which has been on display for many years: impulsive decisions and mistakes in judgement by allowing personal relationships to cloud his decisions. |
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Post by Starbuck on Nov 21, 2024 9:04:01 GMT -6
FCC Chairman Brendan Carr: B+ Secretary of Transportation Sean Duffy: B+ Next up. Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick: A Ambassador to NATO Matt Whitaker: B Secretary of Education Linda McMahon: A |
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Post by abuxb on Nov 21, 2024 12:20:38 GMT -6
Same old dazed and confused Melville as you were years ago on the P-D forums. You still don't understand how these agencies operate and how important it is to rid the agencies of ALL the bureaucrats who infest them, and who are a cancer to the entire Government apparatus. The agencies need to be dismantled and rebuilt in such a fashion that their agenda is completely removed. Appreciate your post above - though I never engage in counterproductive personal invective on this forum. Others are of course free to do so, but I find it not worthy of my time and simply refuse to respond in kind. Staying on topic is all I will ever do here. Throughout this thread I have been clear that reform is needed, and I would very much like to see the Trump administration succeed in reducing and eliminating the politicization and weaponization of the government agencies. Many of his named appointees have been excellent. But not all. Gaetz and Gabbard are long-time self-serving political hacks. They were not selected to introduce reform. Both were appointed to weaponize and politicize agencies which Trump is (rightfully) fearful of. The answer to the current politicization of the justice department and intel agencies is not going to be found by simply repeating the abuses and practices of the past 8+ years. It will simply continue the cycle through future administrations - both DEM and REP. America deserves and needs independent, honest, consistent, non-political Justice Department and intel agencies. Gaetz and Gabbard would do the precise opposite. Now, the objection to Hegseth for the Defense Department is another thing altogether. He is simply ridiculously unqualified - and the is extremely dangerous to the country. Bottom line. Anyone who truly desires to see real systemic change and reform of the DC sewer system should take a clear-eyed view at the people Trump is selecting - endorsing the good choices while rejecting the bad ones. These 3 are simply bad choices and the Senate should do the right thing for the nation by rejecting them. Which would be doing Trump a huge favor by protecting him from one of his greatest weaknesses which has been on display for many years: impulsive decisions and mistakes in judgement by allowing personal relationships to cloud his decisions. Hopefully, you are smart enough to at least grasp the valid point so many posters have sent your way. Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs. That's what America is all about at its core, freedom to exercise your values and live the way you see fit, as long as it doesn't infringe on your neighbor's free exercise of his or her life. Your opinion, StarMel is just that, only an opinion of your liking. It is not factual and you saying so does not elevate your opinion to any level above the opinion of any other poster, be they Liberal or Conservative. It seems you try too hard to claim some superior hold on the truth, when the facts show you often are quite lacking. Just 1 example, when you claim that it was Trump who locked everything down for months and months when it actually was left to the states to decide and many Midwest states refused to go along with the group of far-left Governors that banded together to thwart the Rights and Freedoms of citizens. Pritzker, Whitmer, and Walz were devilish in their pursuit of power, while Governors in states like Iowa, North and South Dakota gave the citizens as much freedom as could be to continue living a full and prosperous life despite the covid-19 illnesses. You seem to forget President Trump's Mount Rushmore rally. |
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Post by Starbuck on Nov 21, 2024 13:23:24 GMT -6
Chief of Staff Susie Wiles: A Secretary of State Rubio: C- Attorney General Matt Gaetz: F Deputy AG Todd Blanche: B Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth: F Secretary of Health and Human Services RFK Jr.: C+ U.N Ambassador Elise Stefanik: B+ Border czar Tom Holman: A Secretary of VA Doug Collins: A National Security Advisor Michael Waltz: B Secretary of the Interion Doug Burgum: B CIA Director John Ratcliffe: A Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard: D EPA Administrator Lee Zeldin: B Ambassador to Israel Mike Huckabee: D Secretary of Homeland Security Kristi Noem: F "Department of Government Efficiency" Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy: A I will provide the grades for others as they are announced - including those who replace some of the names above when they withdraw and/or are rejected. As I committed to, an update is in order. Attorney General nominee Matt Gaetz is hereby removed from the list above. The "Grade F" candidate has removed himself from consideration, after receiving the inevitable rejection by the Senate and Trump's transition team. This is a win for the constitution and for the American people. Trump now has an opportunity to amend for his error by making a more appropriate nomination with an alternative who may actually be qualified and suitable for the position. I will assign a grade to whomever the replacement candidate is. Just as with Gaetz, my analysis will be free of bias, free of agenda, and free of partisanship. |
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Post by Aesa on Nov 21, 2024 13:34:52 GMT -6
Chief of Staff Susie Wiles: A Secretary of State Rubio: C- Attorney General Matt Gaetz: F Deputy AG Todd Blanche: B Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth: F Secretary of Health and Human Services RFK Jr.: C+ U.N Ambassador Elise Stefanik: B+ Border czar Tom Holman: A Secretary of VA Doug Collins: A National Security Advisor Michael Waltz: B Secretary of the Interion Doug Burgum: B CIA Director John Ratcliffe: A Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard: D EPA Administrator Lee Zeldin: B Ambassador to Israel Mike Huckabee: D Secretary of Homeland Security Kristi Noem: F "Department of Government Efficiency" Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy: A I will provide the grades for others as they are announced - including those who replace some of the names above when they withdraw and/or are rejected. As I committed to, an update is in order. Attorney General nominee Matt Gaetz is hereby removed from the list above. The "Grade F" candidate has removed himself from consideration, after receiving the inevitable rejection by the Senate and Trump's transition team. This is a win for the constitution and for the American people. Trump now has an opportunity to amend for his error by making a more appropriate nomination with an alternative who may actually be qualified and suitable for the position. I will assign a grade to whomever the replacement candidate is. Just as with Gaetz, my analysis will be free of bias, free of agenda, and free of partisanship. But NOT free of your EGO. |
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Post by Starbuck on Nov 21, 2024 18:19:19 GMT -6
As I committed to, an update is in order. Attorney General nominee Matt Gaetz is hereby removed from the list above. The "Grade F" candidate has removed himself from consideration, after receiving the inevitable rejection by the Senate and Trump's transition team. This is a win for the constitution and for the American people. Trump now has an opportunity to amend for his error by making a more appropriate nomination with an alternative who may actually be qualified and suitable for the position. I will assign a grade to whomever the replacement candidate is. Just as with Gaetz, my analysis will be free of bias, free of agenda, and free of partisanship. But NOT free of your EGO. No ego involved at all. Genuinely unsure how you would draw such a conclusion from my post above. Simply attempting to discuss an important current affairs topic without bias, agenda, or partisanship. Which I will now continue. Attorney General Pam Bondi: A Credit to the Trump transition team for convincing him to dump the Gaetz disaster and pivot to a nominee who is indeed qualified for the position and who will take on the DC sewer while maintaining neutrality and fidelity to the constitution. |
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Post by abuxb on Nov 21, 2024 20:57:13 GMT -6
As I committed to, an update is in order. Attorney General nominee Matt Gaetz is hereby removed from the list above. The "Grade F" candidate has removed himself from consideration, after receiving the inevitable rejection by the Senate and Trump's transition team. This is a win for the constitution and for the American people. Trump now has an opportunity to amend for his error by making a more appropriate nomination with an alternative who may actually be qualified and suitable for the position. I will assign a grade to whomever the replacement candidate is. Just as with Gaetz, my analysis will be free of bias, free of agenda, and free of partisanship. But NOT free of your EGO. As well as NOT free of dishonesty. |
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Post by Big Jerk on Nov 22, 2024 5:44:16 GMT -6
As well as NOT free of dishonesty. ^ Says the guy using a stolen username... |
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Post by Billy John Davy on Nov 22, 2024 7:05:01 GMT -6
As well as NOT free of dishonesty. ^ Says the guy using a stolen username... How does one "steal" a username that wasnt assigned to anyone? |
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