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Post by Billy John Davy on Aug 28, 2024 8:44:25 GMT -6
Well i actually agree. But a spouse of a citizen? You lose me there. If the spouse is an illegal, that means they broke the law. As in 'did not follow the law.' Now the White House wants to ignore existing law regarding vetting of spouses who are not legal residents (it is, after all, a HUGE immigration scam) just so they can gain more votes. That's also not following the law. Or do you honestly think that every marriage between an American and illegal immigrant is 100% legit? you think its only legal for an American to marry another American? the marital status of an illegal should have no bearing on their deportation status.
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Post by gotscha on Aug 28, 2024 8:53:19 GMT -6
If the spouse is an illegal, that means they broke the law. As in 'did not follow the law.' Now the White House wants to ignore existing law regarding vetting of spouses who are not legal residents (it is, after all, a HUGE immigration scam) just so they can gain more votes. That's also not following the law. Or do you honestly think that every marriage between an American and illegal immigrant is 100% legit? I understand,, I think empathy and humanity are important. I think Jesus would agree. That's part of why there's a process of weeding out the 'green card' marriages from the real ones. Unfortunately the White House wants to pretend that they're all real just for the sake of pandering for votes. Jesus also said to 'render unto Caesar what is Caesar's,' which essentially means we're still to follow the laws of the land and pay taxes to the authorities. Except in rare circumstances, we're to obey the civil authorities which, in the U.S., means we follow the laws.
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Post by gotscha on Aug 28, 2024 8:57:31 GMT -6
If the spouse is an illegal, that means they broke the law. As in 'did not follow the law.' Now the White House wants to ignore existing law regarding vetting of spouses who are not legal residents (it is, after all, a HUGE immigration scam) just so they can gain more votes. That's also not following the law. Or do you honestly think that every marriage between an American and illegal immigrant is 100% legit? you think its only legal for an American to marry another American? the marital status of an illegal should have no bearing on their deportation status. That's not what I said. Americans are free to marry whomever they wish, but that shouldn't automatically give their new spouse a green card, especially since many of these marriages are, in fact, sham marriages. If someone is illegal - married to a U.S. citizen in a 'real' marriage or not - they should not be in this country. Let them go back home and apply for a green card at the local embassy or consulate like every other legal immigrant does.
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Post by Billy John Davy on Aug 28, 2024 9:08:37 GMT -6
you think its only legal for an American to marry another American? the marital status of an illegal should have no bearing on their deportation status. That's not what I said. Americans are free to marry whomever they wish, but that shouldn't automatically give their new spouse a green card, especially since many of these marriages are, in fact, sham marriages. If someone is illegal - married to a U.S. citizen in a 'real' marriage or not - they should not be in this country. Let them go back home and apply for a green card at the local embassy or consulate like every other legal immigrant does. understood. I thought that the green card process for spouses would be quick. But for American to marry an illegal in America should definitely not protect illegal from deportation.
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Post by captbudman on Aug 28, 2024 9:19:15 GMT -6
That's all it is - pandering! No doubt. Almost as bad as sending $3K checks to fully employed people right before the election.... Oh, the humanity! Imagine -- the government actually provide trinkets for the natives to help them survive a severe economic recession that the government caused for largely political reasons. ...I would hate to see families live together. Because brown. Did you realize that foreign citizens of spouses are not allowed to automatically immigrate to America? Did you know that being married to a US citizens doesn't give a spouse automatic citizenship? Why should an illegal immigrant who marries an American be given special preference that a foreign spouse of a US citizen doesn't receive. There's a simply solution for illegal immigrations -- send them home or let them remain in Mexico...
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Post by attackrat on Aug 28, 2024 17:45:39 GMT -6
No doubt. Almost as bad as sending $3K checks to fully employed people right before the election.... Oh, the humanity! Imagine -- the government actually provide trinkets for the natives to help them survive a severe economic recession that the government caused for largely political reasons. ...I would hate to see families live together. Because brown. Did you realize that foreign citizens of spouses are not allowed to automatically immigrate to America? Did you know that being married to a US citizens doesn't give a spouse automatic citizenship? Why should an illegal immigrant who marries an American be given special preference that a foreign spouse of a US citizen doesn't receive. There's a simply solution for illegal immigrations -- send them home or let them remain in Mexico... What does the unemployment rate have to do with sending checks to fully employed people? To be frank, on a purely economic basis, the pandemic was financially beneficial to me, as it probably was for many people who were able to remain fully employed. I was working from home, saving on gas and commute time, and the government was sending me checks. Obviously many people suffered, but shouldn't those checks have been targeted towards them? I agree with you about the foreign spouses of a US citizen. The process is too long and too complicated. It took my coworker almost two years to get his wife into the country. Far too long. The path of legal immigration must be reformed. Your solution sounds simple, but it isn't. You know that. I agree that Biden doesn't have the authority on his own to do this, but the policy (depending on the details of course) is such common sense that it should easily pass Congress. But it won't. It wouldn't. And it is solely because the Congress knows they have constituents who will vote them into office based on the 'simple solution'. It's so simple that for my entirely life illegal immigration has been an issue, and nothing seems to be done about it. Why?
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Post by arrass on Aug 29, 2024 9:54:43 GMT -6
The late, great Jim White used to say" For every complex problem, there is a simple solution. That is usually wrong".
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