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Post by 3 Sport Town on Jun 11, 2024 11:25:26 GMT -6
Too bad Trump was charged in NY and not federally. Hunter and Trump could be cellmates to save on Secret Service funding. TDS strikes again! You have TDS, Trump Denial Syndrome. Trump is a convicted felon just like Hunter, taxpayers could save some money on Secret Service if they were cellmates.
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Post by gotscha on Jun 11, 2024 11:26:32 GMT -6
Nice strawman. Very few gun rights advocates believe drug addicts or convicted felons should be allowed to possess firearms. Oh you would be wrong on that. Many a gun rights advocate does support felons getting ALL their rights back once out of prison and off probation. If they are that much of a danger they should be kept in prison. Now drug addicts? How are they any different than a drunk? We allow drunks to own guns. But as it stands the law of the land is no felons or drug addicts, sucks for Hunter the drug addict. As a percentage, I think those gun rights advocates who think convicted felons should be allowed to possess firearms is still a minority, especially if the felon was a violent one. Drug addicts are a different matter as the definition of 'drug addict' varies. If we're to believe what the rehab industry tells us, 'once an addict, always an addict.' I'm not sure I believe that. I think after remaining clean for 5 years, you can safely say you're not an addict, but that's probably a minority opinion. Oh, and a drunk IS an addict - they're just addicted to a legal substance. Also, it's also illegal everywhere to possess a firearm while intoxicated - even if just from alcohol.
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Post by captbudman on Jun 11, 2024 11:43:51 GMT -6
Nice strawman. Very few gun rights advocates believe drug addicts or convicted felons should be allowed to possess firearms. Oh you would be wrong on that. Many a gun rights advocate does support felons getting ALL their rights back once out of prison and off probation. If they are that much of a danger they should be kept in prison. I think many people are for allowing non-violent convicted felons of having their rights restored once the have completed their total sentence (including probation) -- at least for first time offenders. Would you trust an ex-felon convicted of a violent crime with possessing a weapon -- especially a repeat offender? BTW -- many states had a law saying that sex offenders, if still dangerous, could be kept in prison after they served their sentence. The Supreme Court has ruled that unconstitutional. Hence, you Now drug addicts? How are they any different than a drunk? We allow drunks to own guns. But as it stands the law of the land is no felons or drug addicts, sucks for Hunter the drug addict. The law prohibits those from purchasing weapons if they use drugs that are not legally allowed under Federal Law. Alcohol consumption is legally allowed. Only an idiot ever mixes alcohol with weapons.
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Post by longtimereader on Jun 11, 2024 11:44:33 GMT -6
I asked you a question first why don't you answer it? The 4473 is the current law is it not? Why should Hunter skate on it, poor people don't get to. Yes, it’s the law. But I’m not on board with forcing millions of marijuana using gun applicants to lie. Poor people are skating. Hunter Biden was selectively prosecuted. Now it’s your turn. I am actually fine with the 4473 but that is the world of gun buying I came up in. Would be interesting to not have the 4473 (which the ATF is using to make an illegal registry) and no NICS check, like the old days. I agree that marijuana users are really no different than drunks and we let drunks own guns. Poor people are not skating, if a 4473 violation is prosecuted it more than likely will be a poor person not some rich connected dirtbag (yes Hunter is dirtbag, his laptop is more that proof of that).
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Post by longtimereader on Jun 11, 2024 11:47:15 GMT -6
Oh you would be wrong on that. Many a gun rights advocate does support felons getting ALL their rights back once out of prison and off probation. If they are that much of a danger they should be kept in prison. Now drug addicts? How are they any different than a drunk? We allow drunks to own guns. But as it stands the law of the land is no felons or drug addicts, sucks for Hunter the drug addict. As a percentage, I think those gun rights advocates who think convicted felons should be allowed to possess firearms is still a minority, especially if the felon was a violent one. Drug addicts are a different matter as the definition of 'drug addict' varies. If we're to believe what the rehab industry tells us, 'once an addict, always an addict.' I'm not sure I believe that. I think after remaining clean for 5 years, you can safely say you're not an addict, but that's probably a minority opinion. Oh, and a drunk IS an addict - they're just addicted to a legal substance. Also, it's also illegal everywhere to possess a firearm while intoxicated - even if just from alcohol. If you have been released from prison you should not be considered violent, you paid you debt to society. From the interactions I have had there is a growing number of people that share my views on felons getting their rights back, all of them.
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Post by longtimereader on Jun 11, 2024 11:49:50 GMT -6
Oh you would be wrong on that. Many a gun rights advocate does support felons getting ALL their rights back once out of prison and off probation. If they are that much of a danger they should be kept in prison. I think many people are for allowing non-violent convicted felons of having their rights restored once the have completed their total sentence (including probation) -- at least for first time offenders. Would you trust an ex-felon convicted of a violent crime with possessing a weapon -- especially a repeat offender? BTW -- many states had a law saying that sex offenders, if still dangerous, could be kept in prison after they served their sentence. The Supreme Court has ruled that unconstitutional. Hence, you Now drug addicts? How are they any different than a drunk? We allow drunks to own guns. But as it stands the law of the land is no felons or drug addicts, sucks for Hunter the drug addict. The law prohibits those from purchasing weapons if they use drugs that are not legally allowed under Federal Law. Alcohol consumption is legally allowed. Only an idiot ever mixes alcohol with weapons. How are you breaking your response up? I so want to use that but don't know the trick. I covered the violent felon above. Sex offenders should never get out, they should be taken care of in GP as is. Those scum, especially pedos, should not get protective custody.
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Post by captbudman on Jun 11, 2024 12:12:09 GMT -6
I think many people are for allowing non-violent convicted felons of having their rights restored once the have completed their total sentence (including probation) -- at least for first time offenders. Would you trust an ex-felon convicted of a violent crime with possessing a weapon -- especially a repeat offender? BTW -- many states had a law saying that sex offenders, if still dangerous, could be kept in prison after they served their sentence. The Supreme Court has ruled that unconstitutional. Hence, you The law prohibits those from purchasing weapons if they use drugs that are not legally allowed under Federal Law. Alcohol consumption is legally allowed. Only an idiot ever mixes alcohol with weapons. How are you breaking your response up? I so want to use that but don't know the trick. I covered the violent felon above. Sex offenders should never get out, they should be taken care of in GP as is. Those scum, especially pedos, should not get protective custody. First, let me respond to your point and then I'll try to help you out. I agree that sex offenders -- especially pedophiles -- should be removed from society. Unfortunately, we have Soros DAs and weak judges who refuse to lock up violent offenders. For example, there was a soldier murdered by Chicago gang bangers -- and Soros DA Kim Foxx refused to prosecute the murder. For how you break up a response, beneath the box you type in, click on the "BBCode." When you do that, you'll see the top "[" bracket followed by "quote timestop... and ending with /thread"]. The first one in line indicates the person you are quoting. Copy that entire bracketed statement. Then, find the point where you want to insert the break. Insert an "end quote" statement there, type your response for the first part, and then paste the portion bracketed "quote timestop..." before the rest of the quoted statement. If that's not clear, let me know and I'll screenshot some images.
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Post by cardiological on Jun 11, 2024 12:32:23 GMT -6
Yes, it’s the law. But I’m not on board with forcing millions of marijuana using gun applicants to lie. Poor people are skating. Hunter Biden was selectively prosecuted. Now it’s your turn. I am actually fine with the 4473 but that is the world of gun buying I came up in. Would be interesting to not have the 4473 (which the ATF is using to make an illegal registry) and no NICS check, like the old days. I agree that marijuana users are really no different than drunks and we let drunks own guns. Poor people are not skating, if a 4473 violation is prosecuted it more than likely will be a poor person not some rich connected dirtbag (yes Hunter is dirtbag, his laptop is more that proof of that). Poor people are NOT being prosecuted under analogous fact situations as Biden’s: no associated criminality involving the firearm in question. Review conservative FOX commentator and former prosecutor Trey Gowdy’s analysis and similar comments from numerous other prosecutors. These types of cases simply aren’t prosecuted, or are resolved by pre-trial diversion.
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Post by str8shooter on Jun 11, 2024 12:35:33 GMT -6
I am actually fine with the 4473 but that is the world of gun buying I came up in. Would be interesting to not have the 4473 (which the ATF is using to make an illegal registry) and no NICS check, like the old days. I agree that marijuana users are really no different than drunks and we let drunks own guns. Poor people are not skating, if a 4473 violation is prosecuted it more than likely will be a poor person not some rich connected dirtbag (yes Hunter is dirtbag, his laptop is more that proof of that). Poor people are NOT being prosecuted under analogous fact situations as Biden’s: no associated criminality involving the firearm in question. Review conservative FOX commentator and former prosecutor Trey Gowdy’s analysis and similar comments from numerous other prosecutors. These types of cases simply aren’t prosecuted, or are resolved by pre-trial diversion. I heard the statistic that there are 21,000 people incarcerated for firearms violations. Are you saying that none of them are equivalent to Hunter?
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Post by captbudman on Jun 11, 2024 12:55:29 GMT -6
I forgot to add a comment about Hunter's conviction, so I figured I'd go back to this post. While we've discussed taxes and this gun charge, what's more questionable about this DOJ and the protection of Hunter, why hasn't he been charged for not registering as a foreign agent? After all, he apparently did that in Ukraine and China (and perhaps other countries).
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Post by str8shooter on Jun 11, 2024 13:18:22 GMT -6
The plea deal was rejected because the judge believed it would force her to supervise it, something she was neither inclined nor authorized to do. There was also confusion among the attorneys over its scope. Hunter would likely have avoided the charges had he not written about his addiction in his memoir. These cases simply aren’t generally prosecuted unless the defendant has a felonious history or the firearm is the subject of a straw purchase or was involved in a crime. This was highly unusual. I’ve made my opposition to the Trump prosecution clear on several occasions. I don't mind Trump's prosecution and conviction. He did commit the crime after all. But I assume he'll get a slap on the wrist as most all the wealthy people do. Clearly, the only reason Republicans give a shit about Hunter is in an attempt to link him to his father. As if the Trump hellspawn haven't done criminal things. Like diverting funds from a charity. Which they got caught for and received a slap on the wrist for. I am for prosecuting criminals. Hunter broke the law, he has to do the time. But you also have to realize it was a non-violent crime which to me anyway mitigates the penalty some. We do know that our justice system gives leniency to non-minorities so fairness is a matter of perspective. It shouldn't be, but it is. What crime? Nowhere in the trial was Trump linked to any crime.
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Post by longtimereader on Jun 11, 2024 13:20:41 GMT -6
I am actually fine with the 4473 but that is the world of gun buying I came up in. Would be interesting to not have the 4473 (which the ATF is using to make an illegal registry) and no NICS check, like the old days. I agree that marijuana users are really no different than drunks and we let drunks own guns. Poor people are not skating, if a 4473 violation is prosecuted it more than likely will be a poor person not some rich connected dirtbag (yes Hunter is dirtbag, his laptop is more that proof of that). Poor people are NOT being prosecuted under analogous fact situations as Biden’s: no associated criminality involving the firearm in question. Review conservative FOX commentator and former prosecutor Trey Gowdy’s analysis and similar comments from numerous other prosecutors. These types of cases simply aren’t prosecuted, or are resolved by pre-trial diversion. 4473 violations are in fact gone after just not in the numbers they should be. Again these type of violations SHOULD BE PROSECUTED, it's lazy that they are not. This is where I find the anti-gun folks, not claiming your one, odd that they will say these type of violations are not prosecuted so no big deal then call for more laws.
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Post by onemizzou on Jun 11, 2024 13:25:43 GMT -6
My first thought was that this is shocking. However, I think Joe and the leftists decided to sacrifice his son so they could say "see, there is no two tiered justice". Lets see what the sentencing actually is. Also, you're right that he'll be pardoned on Joe's way out of office. Didn't take too many posts for your bullshit to come up. I was wondering how long it would be before one of you would say it's a Democrat Plot! Wow. LOL I know, you lying leftist hate when we call out what's really going on.
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Post by stargatebabe on Jun 11, 2024 13:31:40 GMT -6
You have TDS, Trump Denial Syndrome. Trump is a convicted felon just like Hunter, taxpayers could save some money on Secret Service if they were cellmates. Oh, that was sharp! *rolls eyes* How old did you say you were? 9? Hunter's charges were real - Trump's are made up so who is the real felon?
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Post by longtimereader on Jun 11, 2024 13:51:42 GMT -6
You have TDS, Trump Denial Syndrome. Trump is a convicted felon just like Hunter, taxpayers could save some money on Secret Service if they were cellmates. Oh, that was sharp! *rolls eyes* How old did you say you were? 9? Hunter's charges were real - Trump's are made up so who is the real felon? You expect a real answer from 3Swallows? That poster this Diaper Biden is a good President, he is mentally broken.
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