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Post by captbudman on Jul 13, 2024 19:52:08 GMT -6
These are the Secret Service snipers who apparently killed him. It looks like they watched him shoot.
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Post by bedfordforrest on Jul 13, 2024 19:56:39 GMT -6
Once again, you may think you hate the media enough, but you don't. It's never enough.
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Post by Nano on Jul 13, 2024 19:58:42 GMT -6
The only people calling for violence are jackasses like you. This is an absolute tragedy and the result of all your civil war bullshit. Welcome to the forum! When in the hell have I ever called for violence, or any other kind of civil war? I think you are a really good person. I also think you are really smart . But you call for political violence regularly. That shit has to stop.
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Post by arative on Jul 13, 2024 20:30:24 GMT -6
It would be political suicide for Biden (or any politician) to do anything besides denounce the assassination attempt. Agreed. Another reason arative’s post was ridiculous. But I don’t doubt the sincerity of the statements notwithstanding it would be suicidal not to make them. All the Dems who have called him a threat to democracy have to now publicly be thankful he's safe. They're violent rhetoric caused this.
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Post by sheepdawg on Jul 13, 2024 20:39:40 GMT -6
Reported to be an AR type firearm. Not exactly an X buster at over 400 yards. This shooter was within 400 ft so 133 yards which is nothing for a .223. 400 yards is still doable with an AR The AR platform is very accurate. I have a 106 year old Swedish m41/B sniper rifle. It has a 1942 German AJACK scope on it. I shot it in vintage sniper competition a few years back. 600 yards is a good start, well it was. Your ideas of accuracy and mine might differ. 133 yds. is child's play. Somebody in security is getting his ass handed to him right now .
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Post by longtimereader on Jul 13, 2024 20:42:38 GMT -6
This shooter was within 400 ft so 133 yards which is nothing for a .223. 400 yards is still doable with an AR The AR platform is very accurate. I have a 106 year old Swedish m41/B sniper rifle. It has a 1942 German AJACK scope on it. I shot it in vintage sniper competition a few years back. 600 yards is a good start, well it was. Your ideas of accuracy and mine might differ. 133 yds. is child's play. Somebody in security is getting his ass handed to him right now . .5 MOA is out of the box accuracy with many ARs at this point. But yes someone either fucked up or was bought off. Not sure we will learn which it was.
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Post by cardiological on Jul 13, 2024 20:48:48 GMT -6
Agreed. Another reason arative’s post was ridiculous. But I don’t doubt the sincerity of the statements notwithstanding it would be suicidal not to make them. All the Dems who have called him a threat to democracy have to now publicly be thankful he's safe. Their violent rhetoric caused this. On Jan 6 during his incendiary diatribe, Trump said they were there “to save democracy” and that if Biden became President “the country would be destroyed”. No wonder the mob stormed the Capitol. Words have consequences. The toxic rhetoric needs to end.
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Post by sheepdawg on Jul 13, 2024 20:56:06 GMT -6
I have a 106 year old Swedish m41/B sniper rifle. It has a 1942 German AJACK scope on it. I shot it in vintage sniper competition a few years back. 600 yards is a good start, well it was. Your ideas of accuracy and mine might differ. 133 yds. is child's play. Somebody in security is getting his ass handed to him right now . .5 MOA is out of the box accuracy with many ARs at this point. But yes someone either fucked up or was bought off. Not sure we will learn which it was. Well there's a shooter involved too but you're talking about 0.5 in a perfect environment and a 55-72 grain bullet handles imperfections a lot worse than a 156 grain round. Let's face it this hero probably wasn't shooting an AR built to that tolerance. Basically then the story goes the 5.56, 223 platform doesn't work as well at over 400 yds. than hundreds of other rifles and rounds. I'm using the shooter's choice of firearm as a basis for the distance.
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Post by megaman on Jul 13, 2024 20:58:38 GMT -6
All the Dems who have called him a threat to democracy have to now publicly be thankful he's safe. Their violent rhetoric caused this. On Jan 6 during his incendiary diatribe, Trump said they were there “to save democracy” and that if Biden became President “the country would be destroyed”. No wonder the mob stormed the Capitol. Words have consequences. The toxic rhetoric needs to end. That would be relevant if they were armed and shooting at Dems. IIRC Trump called for peaceful protesting!
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Post by loubob02 on Jul 13, 2024 21:09:26 GMT -6
It appears Donald Trump just passed the Greg Stillson test.
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Post by cardiological on Jul 13, 2024 21:15:58 GMT -6
On Jan 6 during his incendiary diatribe, Trump said they were there “to save democracy” and that if Biden became President “the country would be destroyed”. No wonder the mob stormed the Capitol. Words have consequences. The toxic rhetoric needs to end. That would be relevant if they were armed and shooting at Dems. IIRC Trump called for peaceful protesting! Yeah, he mentioned “peacefully” one time in an hour and ten minute inflammatory exhortation. I doubt it even registered with the fired up crowd on the mall or the “patriots” already on the Capitol grounds where his speech was being streamed.
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Post by str8shooter on Jul 13, 2024 21:28:31 GMT -6
Some questions need to be addressed. - Why was that roof top not covered prior to Trump speaking?
- Why didn't the police and SS not respond to a couple of guys who told them that a guy with a rifle was going up the side of that building?
- What was the protocol for checking out this venue? Are there cameras? Was this site selected by the shooter earlier in the week?
- Who is the shooter? I know that there is speculation as to a name. I don't know that name to be accurate at this time. Who did this guy communicate with? Are there others who knew about this and did they help in the planning?
- Will Trump get extra protection for the remainder of this campaign?
- Will President get more protection?
President Biden was not prepared to state that this was an assassination attempt. Amazing. God help our country if some idiot attempts to get revenge. God help our country if some other operative tries to finish the job on Trump.
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Post by str8shooter on Jul 13, 2024 21:29:11 GMT -6
That would be relevant if they were armed and shooting at Dems. IIRC Trump called for peaceful protesting! Yeah, he mentioned “peacefully” one time in an hour and ten minute inflammatory exhortation. I doubt it even registered with the fired up crowd on the mall or the “patriots” already on the Capitol grounds where his speech was being streamed. Provide any evidence that he called for violence. ______________ Here is what we do have. Democratic politicians have been calling Trump "Hitler." They have been calling him "evil." They have stated many times that he will end Democracy in America and become a dictator. We have Biden saying that they need to put a "bullseye" on Trump. You have all kinds of leftist media making suggestions that Trump needs to be harmed. Reference the View.
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Post by bedfordforrest on Jul 13, 2024 21:33:52 GMT -6
How should leftists act toward someone that's more dangerous than Hitler and Mussolini?
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Post by bedfordforrest on Jul 13, 2024 21:36:31 GMT -6
Leftist hero and Lincoln Project co-founder said someone had to put a bullet in Trump.
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