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Post by cardiological on Aug 15, 2024 14:52:39 GMT -6
of course the libtards are up in arms over the mere thought of it, but like whiny little children, they should be ignored. Harris campaign and the liberal establishment have worked feverishly in recent months to mischaracterize the Heritage Foundation's Project 2025 as regressive, weird, and authoritarian. This attack campaign, which has involved falsely ascribing various unpopular proposals like suspending democracy and banning no-fault divorce to the conservative initiative, has proven largely effective at rendering the Project 2025 brand radioactive ahead of the election.
Through this collaborative effort, which came to be known as Project 2025, conservatives arrived at a host of policy recommendations that might aid in this pursuit, including:
increasing oversight of the Department of Justice and FBI;
eliminating the Department of Education;
unfettering American energy production as a means to reduce prices and boost the economy;
ousting those obstructionist partisans in the federal bureaucracy who may again attempt to prevent the duly elected president from realizing his mandate;
securing the border and ousting illegal aliens; and
banning men from participating in women's sports.
Echelon Insights polled Americans in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Montana, Ohio, Nevada, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, asking them what they thought about various Project 2025 policy recommendations. The pollsters discovered that respondents were largely on board with what has otherwise been presented as fringe and "authoritarian."
Respondents were asked, for instance, whether they supported "eliminating the Department of Education, moving control and funding of education from DC bureaucrats to parents and state and local governments."
49% of respondents said they supported axing the department. 41% signaled opposition. 10% said they were unsure.
The sample sizes across the eight states ranged from 301 to 377, altogether amounting to a sample of 2,638 likely voters in what Echelon Insights called the "Senate and swing states." Among the respondents, 38% said they considered themselves to be Republican; 35% answered, "Democrat"; and 22% answered, "Independent."
Respondents were asked whether they supported increasing accountability and oversight of the FBI and DOJ in the interest of "deweaponizing the federal government."
Overall, 62% said they strongly or somewhat favor this policy recommendation. Only 25% signaled opposition. Support for the initiative was especially strong in Pennsylvania, where 70% of respondents were on board.
Majorities in each of the eight states supported building a wall to secure the U.S. border. Overall, 62% supported the endeavor.
Super-majorities in every one of the eight states supported the proposition that businesses need to verify their employees are legal American residents. Opposition never exceeded 17%.
When Heritage asked respondents whether they supported "fully enforcing immigration laws, including deporting individuals who have violated these laws," 79% of respondents said they strongly or somewhat favored the proposal. 16% signaled opposition.
Other Project 2025 policy recommendations similarly were met with overwhelming support:
70% of respondents supported sending American troops and equipment to the southern border to confront the drug cartels and secure the border. Only 24% said they were strongly or somewhat opposed.
73% of respondents — including 81% in Montana — supported cutting illegal aliens off all government payments. 20% signaled opposition.
69% of respondents indicated they favored the proposed requirement that Congress approve any major federal regulations before they could take effect. 19% signaled opposition.
62% of respondents said they supported expanding "oil and gas drilling on federal lands to increase fossil fuel production and reduce energy prices."
81% supported cutting the growth of government spending annually to reduce inflation. 12% signaled opposition.
Although responses to questions regarding reductions on business regulations and axing federal DEI programs were closer splits, the Project 2025 propositions still had the edge.
When it came time to see whether the values advocated by Project 2025 resonated with Americans in swing states, Heritage again found itself tallying significant support.
The poll revealed that 73% of respondents opposed men in women's sports; 67% believed teachers should have to tell parents if their child wants to change their "name, gender, or pronouns"; and 65% agreed federal agencies should be "held more accountable to the democratically elected President and Congress."
Although respondents revealed themselves more often than not to be on board with Project 2025's raft of policy proposals, when asked whether they supported the initiative by name based on what they know, they initially offered an answer reflected in previous polls. Only 14% of respondents said they strongly or somewhat supported Project 2025. 47% said they opposed it. 39% said they were unsure.
However, upon being provided with a short description of what Project 2025 is — a description the New Republic and CNN might be loathe to print — respondents changed their tune:
Project 2025 is an initiative not affiliated with any candidate that makes a set of policy recommendations to the next presidential administration. These recommendations include action to secure the border, unleashing domestic energy production, reducing inflation, and defending America against global threat.
Overall, 52% said they supported Project 2025. 36% signal opposition. Only 12% remained unsure.
Whereas prior to respondents reading the definition, support for the conservative initiative was lowest in Arizona (11%), afterward, it saw spike to the second-highest (54%) amongst the eight states.
These results may indicate that Project 2025's detractors trafficking in accusations of weirdness are themselves the extremists.
You’ll need to include Trump among the detractors. He’s disavowed Project 2025. OTHER SIDE IS GOING AROUND TRYING TO MAKE ME SOUND EXTREME LIKE AN EXTREMIST. I'M NOT. AS A PERSON WITH GREAT COMMON SENSE, NOT AN EXTREMIST AT ALL. LIKE SOME ON THE RIGHT, THE SEVERE RIGHT CAME UP WITH THIS PROJECT 2025. I DON'T EVEN KNOW. VERY VERY CONSERVATIVE. SORT OF THE OPPOSITE OF THE RADICAL LEFT. YOU HAVE THE RADICAL LEFT AND THE RADICAL RIGHT. THEY CAME UP WITH THIS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS. PROJECT 25. HE'S INVOLVED. THEN YOU READ SOME OF THESE THINGS AND THEY ARE SERIOUSLY EXTREME. BUT I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT. I DON'T WANT TO KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT. THEY DO MISINFORMATION AND DISINFORMATION. THEY SAY, HE'S A THREAT TO DEMOCRACY. I SAID WHAT DID I DO TO DEMOCRACY? LAST WEEK I TOOK A BULLET FOR DEMOCRACY. WHAT DID I DO AGAINST DEMOCRACY? IT'S CRAZY. www.c-span.org/video/?c5124900/donald-trump-disavows-project-2025 |
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Post by captbudman on Aug 15, 2024 15:07:00 GMT -6
of course the libtards are up in arms over the mere thought of it, but like whiny little children, they should be ignored. Harris campaign and the liberal establishment have worked feverishly in recent months to mischaracterize the Heritage Foundation's Project 2025 as regressive, weird, and authoritarian. This attack campaign, which has involved falsely ascribing various unpopular proposals like suspending democracy and banning no-fault divorce to the conservative initiative, has proven largely effective at rendering the Project 2025 brand radioactive ahead of the election.
Through this collaborative effort, which came to be known as Project 2025, conservatives arrived at a host of policy recommendations that might aid in this pursuit, including:
increasing oversight of the Department of Justice and FBI;
eliminating the Department of Education;
unfettering American energy production as a means to reduce prices and boost the economy;
ousting those obstructionist partisans in the federal bureaucracy who may again attempt to prevent the duly elected president from realizing his mandate;
securing the border and ousting illegal aliens; and
banning men from participating in women's sports.
Echelon Insights polled Americans in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Montana, Ohio, Nevada, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, asking them what they thought about various Project 2025 policy recommendations. The pollsters discovered that respondents were largely on board with what has otherwise been presented as fringe and "authoritarian."
Respondents were asked, for instance, whether they supported "eliminating the Department of Education, moving control and funding of education from DC bureaucrats to parents and state and local governments."
49% of respondents said they supported axing the department. 41% signaled opposition. 10% said they were unsure.
The sample sizes across the eight states ranged from 301 to 377, altogether amounting to a sample of 2,638 likely voters in what Echelon Insights called the "Senate and swing states." Among the respondents, 38% said they considered themselves to be Republican; 35% answered, "Democrat"; and 22% answered, "Independent."
Respondents were asked whether they supported increasing accountability and oversight of the FBI and DOJ in the interest of "deweaponizing the federal government."
Overall, 62% said they strongly or somewhat favor this policy recommendation. Only 25% signaled opposition. Support for the initiative was especially strong in Pennsylvania, where 70% of respondents were on board.
Majorities in each of the eight states supported building a wall to secure the U.S. border. Overall, 62% supported the endeavor.
Super-majorities in every one of the eight states supported the proposition that businesses need to verify their employees are legal American residents. Opposition never exceeded 17%.
When Heritage asked respondents whether they supported "fully enforcing immigration laws, including deporting individuals who have violated these laws," 79% of respondents said they strongly or somewhat favored the proposal. 16% signaled opposition.
Other Project 2025 policy recommendations similarly were met with overwhelming support:
70% of respondents supported sending American troops and equipment to the southern border to confront the drug cartels and secure the border. Only 24% said they were strongly or somewhat opposed.
73% of respondents — including 81% in Montana — supported cutting illegal aliens off all government payments. 20% signaled opposition.
69% of respondents indicated they favored the proposed requirement that Congress approve any major federal regulations before they could take effect. 19% signaled opposition.
62% of respondents said they supported expanding "oil and gas drilling on federal lands to increase fossil fuel production and reduce energy prices."
81% supported cutting the growth of government spending annually to reduce inflation. 12% signaled opposition.
Although responses to questions regarding reductions on business regulations and axing federal DEI programs were closer splits, the Project 2025 propositions still had the edge.
When it came time to see whether the values advocated by Project 2025 resonated with Americans in swing states, Heritage again found itself tallying significant support.
The poll revealed that 73% of respondents opposed men in women's sports; 67% believed teachers should have to tell parents if their child wants to change their "name, gender, or pronouns"; and 65% agreed federal agencies should be "held more accountable to the democratically elected President and Congress."
Although respondents revealed themselves more often than not to be on board with Project 2025's raft of policy proposals, when asked whether they supported the initiative by name based on what they know, they initially offered an answer reflected in previous polls. Only 14% of respondents said they strongly or somewhat supported Project 2025. 47% said they opposed it. 39% said they were unsure.
However, upon being provided with a short description of what Project 2025 is — a description the New Republic and CNN might be loathe to print — respondents changed their tune:
Project 2025 is an initiative not affiliated with any candidate that makes a set of policy recommendations to the next presidential administration. These recommendations include action to secure the border, unleashing domestic energy production, reducing inflation, and defending America against global threat.
Overall, 52% said they supported Project 2025. 36% signal opposition. Only 12% remained unsure.
Whereas prior to respondents reading the definition, support for the conservative initiative was lowest in Arizona (11%), afterward, it saw spike to the second-highest (54%) amongst the eight states.
These results may indicate that Project 2025's detractors trafficking in accusations of weirdness are themselves the extremists.
You’ll need to include Trump among the detractors. He’s disavowed Project 2025. OTHER SIDE IS GOING AROUND TRYING TO MAKE ME SOUND EXTREME LIKE AN EXTREMIST. I'M NOT. AS A PERSON WITH GREAT COMMON SENSE, NOT AN EXTREMIST AT ALL. LIKE SOME ON THE RIGHT, THE SEVERE RIGHT CAME UP WITH THIS PROJECT 2025. I DON'T EVEN KNOW. VERY VERY CONSERVATIVE. SORT OF THE OPPOSITE OF THE RADICAL LEFT. YOU HAVE THE RADICAL LEFT AND THE RADICAL RIGHT. THEY CAME UP WITH THIS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS. PROJECT 25. HE'S INVOLVED. THEN YOU READ SOME OF THESE THINGS AND THEY ARE SERIOUSLY EXTREME. BUT I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT. I DON'T WANT TO KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT. THEY DO MISINFORMATION AND DISINFORMATION. THEY SAY, HE'S A THREAT TO DEMOCRACY. I SAID WHAT DID I DO TO DEMOCRACY? LAST WEEK I TOOK A BULLET FOR DEMOCRACY. WHAT DID I DO AGAINST DEMOCRACY? IT'S CRAZY. www.c-span.org/video/?c5124900/donald-trump-disavows-project-2025Cardio -- Trump had nothing to do with the creation of the project. His main objection was that they were trying to attribute their project to him, without seeking input from him or his campaign. It's likely (although I'm speculating) that Heritage asked for donations, implying that Project would be implemented as part of the incoming Trump administration. Remember, Trump views the Trump brand has adding value to his projects, so he's going to oppose anyone trying to profit off of it without his permission -- including the Heritage Foundation... Some of the ideas of Project 2025 mirror Trump's positions, such as keeping men out of women's sports, securing the border, and deporting illegal alien criminals. I don't know about the other issues that the left is whining about, as I haven't looked into it. |
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Post by str8shooter on Aug 15, 2024 15:47:18 GMT -6
As an FYI, I thought that some of the Project 2025 stuff went too far though it has been some time since I read the platform. On Wikipedia, I found it ironic that they had to include a link under that heading which denoted what Trump believed in and missing the Project 2025 banner.
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Post by floridaanticub on Aug 15, 2024 16:20:09 GMT -6
You’ll need to include Trump among the detractors. He’s disavowed Project 2025. OTHER SIDE IS GOING AROUND TRYING TO MAKE ME SOUND EXTREME LIKE AN EXTREMIST. I'M NOT. AS A PERSON WITH GREAT COMMON SENSE, NOT AN EXTREMIST AT ALL. LIKE SOME ON THE RIGHT, THE SEVERE RIGHT CAME UP WITH THIS PROJECT 2025. I DON'T EVEN KNOW. VERY VERY CONSERVATIVE. SORT OF THE OPPOSITE OF THE RADICAL LEFT. YOU HAVE THE RADICAL LEFT AND THE RADICAL RIGHT. THEY CAME UP WITH THIS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS. PROJECT 25. HE'S INVOLVED. THEN YOU READ SOME OF THESE THINGS AND THEY ARE SERIOUSLY EXTREME. BUT I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT. I DON'T WANT TO KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT. THEY DO MISINFORMATION AND DISINFORMATION. THEY SAY, HE'S A THREAT TO DEMOCRACY. I SAID WHAT DID I DO TO DEMOCRACY? LAST WEEK I TOOK A BULLET FOR DEMOCRACY. WHAT DID I DO AGAINST DEMOCRACY? IT'S CRAZY. www.c-span.org/video/?c5124900/donald-trump-disavows-project-2025Cardio -- Trump had nothing to do with the creation of the project. His main objection was that they were trying to attribute their project to him, without seeking input from him or his campaign. It's likely (although I'm speculating) that Heritage asked for donations, implying that Project would be implemented as part of the incoming Trump administration. Remember, Trump views the Trump brand has adding value to his projects, so he's going to oppose anyone trying to profit off of it without his permission -- including the Heritage Foundation... Some of the ideas of Project 2025 mirror Trump's positions, such as keeping men out of women's sports, securing the border, and deporting illegal alien criminals. I don't know about the other issues that the left is whining about, as I haven't looked into it. Well how ‘bout that??! If Trump has disavowed it, the. I guess the loonie left and their media minions can stop losing their shit about it? Right? Seriously, earlier this summer Eric Swalwell, Shitbag-CA, veered into a tangent when questioning Ben Shapiro who was testifying about government censorship. What Project 2025 had to do with that topic only Shitbag Swalwell knows but he reeled of a list of so called “gotcha” items for Shapiro to agree to or denounce. Every single item on his list sounded like sound policy to me. I also recently had a pointed conversation with a close family member about it and she admitted she had never read the policy document. The only thing she seemed worried about was a supposed national ban on abortions. I haven’t read the thing either but if she’s correct about that specific item, it’s the only cited thing in it I’d disagree with. Meanwhile until a candidate adopts it as his platform, I don’t have time to read the 900 page thing. |
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Post by captbudman on Aug 15, 2024 16:34:54 GMT -6
Cardio -- Trump had nothing to do with the creation of the project. His main objection was that they were trying to attribute their project to him, without seeking input from him or his campaign. It's likely (although I'm speculating) that Heritage asked for donations, implying that Project would be implemented as part of the incoming Trump administration. Remember, Trump views the Trump brand has adding value to his projects, so he's going to oppose anyone trying to profit off of it without his permission -- including the Heritage Foundation... Some of the ideas of Project 2025 mirror Trump's positions, such as keeping men out of women's sports, securing the border, and deporting illegal alien criminals. I don't know about the other issues that the left is whining about, as I haven't looked into it. Well how ‘bout that??! If Trump has disavowed it, the. I guess the loonie left and their media minions can stop losing their shit about it? Right? Seriously, earlier this summer Eric Swalwell, Shitbag-CA, veered into a tangent when questioning Ben Shapiro who was testifying about government censorship. What Project 2025 had to do with that topic only Shitbag Swalwell knows but he reeled of a list of so called “gotcha” items for Shapiro to agree to or denounce. Every single item on his list sounded like sound policy to me. I also recently had a pointed conversation with a close family member about it and she admitted she had never read the policy document. The only thing she seemed worried about was a supposed national ban on abortions. I haven’t read the thing either but if she’s correct about that specific item, it’s the only cited thing in it I’d disagree with. Meanwhile until a candidate adopts it as his platform, I don’t have time to read the 900 page thing. Meanwhile, the Kamalaliar campaign hasn't even said what they stand for, nor had a press conference. She's trying to fool the public to think she's the second coming of their black messiah and an "outsider" who can fix the government -- hoping people will forget she's been the border czar and is the tie-breaking vote in the Democrat's laws that caused inflation. |
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Post by emerald on Aug 17, 2024 10:15:21 GMT -6
There's video of Trump supporting Project 2025. He lied when he disavowed "some" of its tenets. He lies about everything. Anyone that reads the text of Project 2025 and comes away thinking that's good for me and America is definitely a radical extremist. There is no common ground. Running from it won't matter, it's in the wild now. He was so scared of the reaction that he ran from it and one of it's creators said on video, "He has to deny it right now, but he fully supports Project 2025." I'm sure this polling was all above board. LOL If it's such a good thing then why doesn't Trump come out publicly in support of it. If it has so much support, why not come out and publicly state your support for such a popular endeavor. LOL You all know why and that's why your pathetic attempt to dampen the blow will fail. Personally, I don't understand how any American that believes in freedom could support such a piece of shit. If enacted, this piece of shit would over night turn America in Nazi Germany and the Taliban combined. I'm going to refrain from calling you all names because maybe you'll come to your senses. But Project 2025 is evil.
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Post by bedfordforrest on Aug 17, 2024 11:28:00 GMT -6
There's video of Trump supporting Project 2025. He lied when he disavowed "some" of its tenets. He lies about everything. Anyone that reads the text of Project 2025 and comes away thinking that's good for me and America is definitely a radical extremist. There is no common ground. Running from it won't matter, it's in the wild now. He was so scared of the reaction that he ran from it and one of it's creators said on video, "He has to deny it right now, but he fully supports Project 2025." I'm sure this polling was all above board. LOL If it's such a good thing then why doesn't Trump come out publicly in support of it. If it has so much support, why not come out and publicly state your support for such a popular endeavor. LOL You all know why and that's why your pathetic attempt to dampen the blow will fail. Personally, I don't understand how any American that believes in freedom could support such a piece of shit. If enacted, this piece of shit would over night turn America in Nazi Germany and the Taliban combined. I'm going to refrain from calling you all names because maybe you'll come to your senses. But Project 2025 is evil. Project 2025 is going to ban retards like you from the internet. |
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Post by emerald on Aug 17, 2024 14:20:05 GMT -6
There's video of Trump supporting Project 2025. He lied when he disavowed "some" of its tenets. He lies about everything. Anyone that reads the text of Project 2025 and comes away thinking that's good for me and America is definitely a radical extremist. There is no common ground. Running from it won't matter, it's in the wild now. He was so scared of the reaction that he ran from it and one of it's creators said on video, "He has to deny it right now, but he fully supports Project 2025." I'm sure this polling was all above board. LOL If it's such a good thing then why doesn't Trump come out publicly in support of it. If it has so much support, why not come out and publicly state your support for such a popular endeavor. LOL You all know why and that's why your pathetic attempt to dampen the blow will fail. Personally, I don't understand how any American that believes in freedom could support such a piece of shit. If enacted, this piece of shit would over night turn America in Nazi Germany and the Taliban combined. I'm going to refrain from calling you all names because maybe you'll come to your senses. But Project 2025 is evil. Project 2025 is going to ban retards like you from the internet. LOL...Trump can't even win the popular vote. What makes you think Project 2025 is going to be more popular than him? LOL |
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