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Post by momof3 on Aug 23, 2024 12:29:22 GMT -6
The best Kamala could do was 25 mins? 8 of her talking about her being a 'fighter' and 14 of blatant lies about Trump and zero mins talking about any actual policy. She managed to be even more vague than every Obama speech. Care to list the "Blatant lies"? I didn't think so. Here are a couple: She said Trump “plans to create a national anti-abortion coordinator and force states to report on women’s miscarriages and abortions.” She further claimed, “As a part of his agenda, he and his allies would limit access to birth control, ban medication abortion and enact a nationwide abortion ban, with or without Congress.” As a part of that portion of her speech, she falsely claimed he fully supported Project 2025. He has, on multiple occasions, claimed he does not agree with Project 2025. She also falsely claimed, “The United States Supreme Court just ruled he would be immune from criminal prosecution.” I’m wondering if you could list, in detail, her policies. You could even cut and paste them from her campaign website….oh wait, she doesn’t have any policies listed on her website.
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Post by Billy John Davy on Aug 23, 2024 12:44:46 GMT -6
Care to list the "Blatant lies"? I didn't think so. Here are a couple: She said Trump “plans to create a national anti-abortion coordinator and force states to report on women’s miscarriages and abortions.” She further claimed, “As a part of his agenda, he and his allies would limit access to birth control, ban medication abortion and enact a nationwide abortion ban, with or without Congress.” As a part of that portion of her speech, she falsely claimed he fully supported Project 2025. He has, on multiple occasions, claimed he does not agree with Project 2025. She also falsely claimed, “The United States Supreme Court just ruled he would be immune from criminal prosecution.” I’m wondering if you could list, in detail, her policies. You could even cut and paste them from her campaign website….oh wait, she doesn’t have any policies listed on her website. Ill just quote from the far right SeeBS news....
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Post by str8shooter on Aug 23, 2024 13:12:25 GMT -6
The best Kamala could do was 25 mins? 8 of her talking about her being a 'fighter' and 14 of blatant lies about Trump and zero mins talking about any actual policy. She managed to be even more vague than every Obama speech. Care to list the "Blatant lies"? I didn't think so. Here are a few: - Trump did not suppoort Project 2025 and had denouned it at a minimum of 6 rallies.
- The Trump Tax Cuts benefited the middle class.
- Biden did place Harris in charge of the border.
- Trump has constantly stated at his rallies that he does not favor a nationwide ban on abortions and that abortion is a state's right issue. He has also gone on the record saying that he favors abortion in cases of rape and incest.
- The Department of Education is necessary and has improved education nationwide. In fact, Chicago is one of the worst school systems in America. 72% of its students can not read at an substantial level.
- Walz's entire promotion of his service.
- Trump did not encourage the protestors on January 6 and has not been charged with insurrection. Conviently, Harris forgets her role in promoting the riots, buring and looting of the left.
- Trump does not want to destroy or cancel social security and medicare. In fact, the Biden administration is doing so with allowing illegal aliens to qualify for medicare.
- Biden and Harris' administration is the cause of higher inflation.
- Harris said that she will tax the wealthy. That will cause these corporations to cut jobs, wage increases and will force corporations to leave America. Her lies about wealth inclued her own upbringing. BTW, I listend to an economist this morning and he said that the proposed tax increases of Harris, though she does not have anything online to study, could actually drive America into a Great Depression.
Well this is a start.
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Post by floridaanticub on Aug 23, 2024 17:33:41 GMT -6
This entire "President of Joy" tripe brings a chill down my spine. They couldn't have tried harder to reflect the core premise in "Brave New World". It's like the DNC is being branded as "your central dispensary of Soma". We are living in a dystopian cosplay. Dystopian? You mean like rounding up millions of people and putting them in camps? You mean like ripping children from their mothers arms? Is that the dystopian you were talking about? No. I mean the willingly self-delusional. Thanks for asking.
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Post by emerald on Aug 24, 2024 6:51:45 GMT -6
Dystopian? You mean like rounding up millions of people and putting them in camps? You mean like ripping children from their mothers arms? Is that the dystopian you were talking about? No. I mean the willingly self-delusional. Thanks for asking. I know you are delusional, but I'm trying to help you. Just open your mind and get away from right wing media. They've poisoned your brain.
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Post by longtimereader on Aug 24, 2024 6:55:49 GMT -6
emerald seems to be in a bit of a panic give how much he's posting.
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Post by momof3 on Aug 24, 2024 7:09:19 GMT -6
emerald seems to be in a bit of a panic give how much he's posting. And he asked for examples of Kamala’s lies, and we gave examples. Response from emerald? Nothing. Emerald, care to respond to the lies Kamala told?
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Post by emerald on Aug 24, 2024 7:24:49 GMT -6
Care to list the "Blatant lies"? I didn't think so. Here are a few: - Trump did not suppoort Project 2025 and had denouned it at a minimum of 6 rallies.
- The Trump Tax Cuts benefited the middle class.
- Biden did place Harris in charge of the border.
- Trump has constantly stated at his rallies that he does not favor a nationwide ban on abortions and that abortion is a state's right issue. He has also gone on the record saying that he favors abortion in cases of rape and incest.
- The Department of Education is necessary and has improved education nationwide. In fact, Chicago is one of the worst school systems in America. 72% of its students can not read at an substantial level.
- Walz's entire promotion of his service.
- Trump did not encourage the protestors on January 6 and has not been charged with insurrection. Conviently, Harris forgets her role in promoting the riots, buring and looting of the left.
- Trump does not want to destroy or cancel social security and medicare. In fact, the Biden administration is doing so with allowing illegal aliens to qualify for medicare.
- Biden and Harris' administration is the cause of higher inflation.
- Harris said that she will tax the wealthy. That will cause these corporations to cut jobs, wage increases and will force corporations to leave America. Her lies about wealth inclued her own upbringing. BTW, I listend to an economist this morning and he said that the proposed tax increases of Harris, though she does not have anything online to study, could actually drive America into a Great Depression.
Well this is a start.
1.He did support it until it was made thoroughly public and he realized how unpopular it was. Now he's lying about it. 2. The middle class got a small tax cut that will expire, effectively causing a tax increase back to what it was. But it's only temporary for the middle and lower class. Permanent for his buddies in the 1% club. It also ballooned the national debt. Though you guys only worry about that at election time. 3. She was in charge of connecting with South American leaders about the immigration problem. Mayorkas was in charge of the border. 4. Yep, he's flip-flopped worse than a catfish on the shore. He finally settled on the States Rights answer which effectively alienates his evangelicals and pro-choice voters. 5. I don't know about this, you have a link? What are the options? No public school system? Let every Tom, Dick or Harriet teach whatever the local parents want taught? There has to be standards. We can't have nut balls teaching that Jesus rode a dinosaur and that Noah's ark really happened. Talk about Idiocracy. 6. The man served 24 fucking years, how many did you serve. Now military service is a negative? You do us all a disservice by denigrated our military. 7. We all heard him. "Fight like hell!" "March down to the Capital" etc etc Then waited over 3 hours to make a statement. We all saw and heard it, your whitewash won't stand. 8. Republicans are already talking about raising the retirement age. Trump IS the Republicans. Raising the age IS a cut. 9. You're a fool. Inflation is rampant WORLDWIDE! America actually has the lowest inflation in the world. And it's going down monthly. That being said, corporations had greedily gouged people the world over and it's got to stop. Harris has spoken to this and they will hold these greedy corporations feet to the fire. Republicans on the other hand will take their donations(Bribes) and not even attempt to do anything about it. Sickening. 10. Once again, bend over for the corporations(the wealthy) and take it. These CEO's and their owners aren't going to come down to the grill and flip burgers. They'll pay someone as low as they can to do it. They aren't going to move factories because of taxes, they will however move them if they can save on labor, regulations and some taxes. It's up to Harris and the Democrats to make that as unpalatable as possible. If your business is profitable then you can afford to pay your workers a living wage, if it isn't then you don't need to be in business. Companies that move their factories to avoid costs should be held accountable. You want to move your air conditioner factory to Mexico? Okay, tariff so that American companies can compete. Let's see you sell your air conditioners to someone other than the largest economy in the world. I can find just as many economists that say the Democrat plan is great for America.
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Post by floridaanticub on Aug 24, 2024 7:44:29 GMT -6
No. I mean the willingly self-delusional. Thanks for asking. I know you are delusional, but I'm trying to help you. Just open your mind and get away from right wing media. They've poisoned your brain. You have no clue what media I consume.
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Post by keefdaman on Aug 24, 2024 7:54:53 GMT -6
The best Kamala could do was 25 mins? 8 of her talking about her being a 'fighter' and 14 of blatant lies about Trump and zero mins talking about any actual policy. She managed to be even more vague than every Obama speech. I didn’t watch her speech, but I just saw a clip where she said she has had a lot of difficult elections, but she never gave up. But….didn't she give up in the 2020 primaries? She never made it to the primaries that began with Iowa. She was polling so badly that she dropped out.
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Post by keefdaman on Aug 24, 2024 7:56:29 GMT -6
Care to list the "Blatant lies"? I didn't think so. Here are a few: - Trump did not suppoort Project 2025 and had denouned it at a minimum of 6 rallies.
- The Trump Tax Cuts benefited the middle class.
- Biden did place Harris in charge of the border.
- Trump has constantly stated at his rallies that he does not favor a nationwide ban on abortions and that abortion is a state's right issue. He has also gone on the record saying that he favors abortion in cases of rape and incest.
- The Department of Education is necessary and has improved education nationwide. In fact, Chicago is one of the worst school systems in America. 72% of its students can not read at an substantial level.
- Walz's entire promotion of his service.
- Trump did not encourage the protestors on January 6 and has not been charged with insurrection. Conviently, Harris forgets her role in promoting the riots, buring and looting of the left.
- Trump does not want to destroy or cancel social security and medicare. In fact, the Biden administration is doing so with allowing illegal aliens to qualify for medicare.
- Biden and Harris' administration is the cause of higher inflation.
- Harris said that she will tax the wealthy. That will cause these corporations to cut jobs, wage increases and will force corporations to leave America. Her lies about wealth inclued her own upbringing. BTW, I listend to an economist this morning and he said that the proposed tax increases of Harris, though she does not have anything online to study, could actually drive America into a Great Depression.
Well this is a start.
Number 3, there was a big presser with Biden and Harris
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Post by keefdaman on Aug 24, 2024 7:57:51 GMT -6
Here are a few: - Trump did not suppoort Project 2025 and had denouned it at a minimum of 6 rallies.
- The Trump Tax Cuts benefited the middle class.
- Biden did place Harris in charge of the border.
- Trump has constantly stated at his rallies that he does not favor a nationwide ban on abortions and that abortion is a state's right issue. He has also gone on the record saying that he favors abortion in cases of rape and incest.
- The Department of Education is necessary and has improved education nationwide. In fact, Chicago is one of the worst school systems in America. 72% of its students can not read at an substantial level.
- Walz's entire promotion of his service.
- Trump did not encourage the protestors on January 6 and has not been charged with insurrection. Conviently, Harris forgets her role in promoting the riots, buring and looting of the left.
- Trump does not want to destroy or cancel social security and medicare. In fact, the Biden administration is doing so with allowing illegal aliens to qualify for medicare.
- Biden and Harris' administration is the cause of higher inflation.
- Harris said that she will tax the wealthy. That will cause these corporations to cut jobs, wage increases and will force corporations to leave America. Her lies about wealth inclued her own upbringing. BTW, I listend to an economist this morning and he said that the proposed tax increases of Harris, though she does not have anything online to study, could actually drive America into a Great Depression.
Well this is a start.
1.He did support it until it was made thoroughly public and he realized how unpopular it was. Now he's lying about it. 2. The middle class got a small tax cut that will expire, effectively causing a tax increase back to what it was. But it's only temporary for the middle and lower class. Permanent for his buddies in the 1% club. It also ballooned the national debt. Though you guys only worry about that at election time. 3. She was in charge of connecting with South American leaders about the immigration problem. Mayorkas was in charge of the border. 4. Yep, he's flip-flopped worse than a catfish on the shore. He finally settled on the States Rights answer which effectively alienates his evangelicals and pro-choice voters. 5. I don't know about this, you have a link? What are the options? No public school system? Let every Tom, Dick or Harriet teach whatever the local parents want taught? There has to be standards. We can't have nut balls teaching that Jesus rode a dinosaur and that Noah's ark really happened. Talk about Idiocracy. 6. The man served 24 fucking years, how many did you serve. Now military service is a negative? You do us all a disservice by denigrated our military. 7. We all heard him. "Fight like hell!" "March down to the Capital" etc etc Then waited over 3 hours to make a statement. We all saw and heard it, your whitewash won't stand. 8. Republicans are already talking about raising the retirement age. Trump IS the Republicans. Raising the age IS a cut. 9. You're a fool. Inflation is rampant WORLDWIDE! America actually has the lowest inflation in the world. And it's going down monthly. That being said, corporations had greedily gouged people the world over and it's got to stop. Harris has spoken to this and they will hold these greedy corporations feet to the fire. Republicans on the other hand will take their donations(Bribes) and not even attempt to do anything about it. Sickening. 10. Once again, bend over for the corporations(the wealthy) and take it. These CEO's and their owners aren't going to come down to the grill and flip burgers. They'll pay someone as low as they can to do it. They aren't going to move factories because of taxes, they will however move them if they can save on labor, regulations and some taxes. It's up to Harris and the Democrats to make that as unpalatable as possible. If your business is profitable then you can afford to pay your workers a living wage, if it isn't then you don't need to be in business. Companies that move their factories to avoid costs should be held accountable. You want to move your air conditioner factory to Mexico? Okay, tariff so that American companies can compete. Let's see you sell your air conditioners to someone other than the largest economy in the world. I can find just as many economists that say the Democrat plan is great for America.
I find that you one strange person.
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Post by keefdaman on Aug 24, 2024 8:00:44 GMT -6
No. I mean the willingly self-delusional. Thanks for asking. I know you are delusional, but I'm trying to help you. Just open your mind and get away from right wing media. They've poisoned your brain. Yes, but we are getting this from CNN and MSNBC. THEY ALWAYS HAVE THE FACTS STRIAGHT!
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Post by momof3 on Aug 24, 2024 9:40:34 GMT -6
Here are a few: - Trump did not suppoort Project 2025 and had denouned it at a minimum of 6 rallies.
- The Trump Tax Cuts benefited the middle class.
- Biden did place Harris in charge of the border.
- Trump has constantly stated at his rallies that he does not favor a nationwide ban on abortions and that abortion is a state's right issue. He has also gone on the record saying that he favors abortion in cases of rape and incest.
- The Department of Education is necessary and has improved education nationwide. In fact, Chicago is one of the worst school systems in America. 72% of its students can not read at an substantial level.
- Walz's entire promotion of his service.
- Trump did not encourage the protestors on January 6 and has not been charged with insurrection. Conviently, Harris forgets her role in promoting the riots, buring and looting of the left.
- Trump does not want to destroy or cancel social security and medicare. In fact, the Biden administration is doing so with allowing illegal aliens to qualify for medicare.
- Biden and Harris' administration is the cause of higher inflation.
- Harris said that she will tax the wealthy. That will cause these corporations to cut jobs, wage increases and will force corporations to leave America. Her lies about wealth inclued her own upbringing. BTW, I listend to an economist this morning and he said that the proposed tax increases of Harris, though she does not have anything online to study, could actually drive America into a Great Depression.
Well this is a start.
1.He did support it until it was made thoroughly public and he realized how unpopular it was. Now he's lying about it. 2. The middle class got a small tax cut that will expire, effectively causing a tax increase back to what it was. But it's only temporary for the middle and lower class. Permanent for his buddies in the 1% club. It also ballooned the national debt. Though you guys only worry about that at election time. 3. She was in charge of connecting with South American leaders about the immigration problem. Mayorkas was in charge of the border. 4. Yep, he's flip-flopped worse than a catfish on the shore. He finally settled on the States Rights answer which effectively alienates his evangelicals and pro-choice voters. 5. I don't know about this, you have a link? What are the options? No public school system? Let every Tom, Dick or Harriet teach whatever the local parents want taught? There has to be standards. We can't have nut balls teaching that Jesus rode a dinosaur and that Noah's ark really happened. Talk about Idiocracy. 6. The man served 24 fucking years, how many did you serve. Now military service is a negative? You do us all a disservice by denigrated our military. 7. We all heard him. "Fight like hell!" "March down to the Capital" etc etc Then waited over 3 hours to make a statement. We all saw and heard it, your whitewash won't stand. 8. Republicans are already talking about raising the retirement age. Trump IS the Republicans. Raising the age IS a cut. 9. You're a fool. Inflation is rampant WORLDWIDE! America actually has the lowest inflation in the world. And it's going down monthly. That being said, corporations had greedily gouged people the world over and it's got to stop. Harris has spoken to this and they will hold these greedy corporations feet to the fire. Republicans on the other hand will take their donations(Bribes) and not even attempt to do anything about it. Sickening. 10. Once again, bend over for the corporations(the wealthy) and take it. These CEO's and their owners aren't going to come down to the grill and flip burgers. They'll pay someone as low as they can to do it. They aren't going to move factories because of taxes, they will however move them if they can save on labor, regulations and some taxes. It's up to Harris and the Democrats to make that as unpalatable as possible. If your business is profitable then you can afford to pay your workers a living wage, if it isn't then you don't need to be in business. Companies that move their factories to avoid costs should be held accountable. You want to move your air conditioner factory to Mexico? Okay, tariff so that American companies can compete. Let's see you sell your air conditioners to someone other than the largest economy in the world. I can find just as many economists that say the Democrat plan is great for America.
Just looking at a couple of your responses. You admit in #2 that Trump DID give the middle class a tax cut. Harris said he didn’t. That makes her statement a lie. And it wouldn’t have to expire if Harris was president. #4 - He has always maintained that the states should decide about abortion. She lied and said he wants a nationwide ban. How can you not call that a blatant lie?? #6 - The lie is in how Walz has talked about his service. Yes, he served 24 years, that’s wonderful. Why exaggerate your rank, or say you “held weapons in war” if you never did? If Vance claimed he did something in the military that he didn’t really do, would you accuse HIM of lying? And probably the biggest whiff in your list is #1. Harris has done a 180 on so many of her positions. Would we be lying if we claimed Harris supports taxes on tips? She signed a bill that specifically stated IRS agents should go after people who make tips. Now she says she won’t tax them. Can’t Trump change his mind on an issue?
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Post by emerald on Aug 24, 2024 12:14:24 GMT -6
Just looking at a couple of your responses. You admit in #2 that Trump DID give the middle class a tax cut. Harris said he didn’t. That makes her statement a lie. And it wouldn’t have to expire if Harris was president. Got a link where she said he didn't? As for the tax break, it was exceedingly small for the middle class and poor, and it's expiring because Trump set it up that way. She has promised to give the middle class a tax cut though.#4 - He has always maintained that the states should decide about abortion. She lied and said he wants a nationwide ban. How can you not call that a blatant lie?? This is just a blatant lie by you. I distinctly remember him supporting 16 weeks and then because of the evangelical and pro-life backlash he changed it so he could wash his hands clean, sort of like Pontius Pilate.#6 - The lie is in how Walz has talked about his service. Yes, he served 24 years, that’s wonderful. Why exaggerate your rank, or say you “held weapons in war” if you never did? If Vance claimed he did something in the military that he didn’t really do, would you accuse HIM of lying? Just the right trying to split hairs. You think you have a gotcha moment, but in reality you're denigrating a man that served 24 years and it is sickening.And probably the biggest whiff in your list is #1. Harris has done a 180 on so many of her positions. Would we be lying if we claimed Harris supports taxes on tips? She signed a bill that specifically stated IRS agents should go after people who make tips. Now she says she won’t tax them. Can’t Trump change his mind on an issue? First off, what bill? Got a link? Second, no anyone can change their mind, it's those that aren't flexible enough to change their mind that are the dangerous ones. Secondly, It's about truth. Trump has shown his aversion to it over and over. Rated as the worst President in history by historians. He's thoroughly dishonest and on talks of catastrophe and destruction. He tries to separate Americans with culture wars. Whatever happened to "Can't we all just get along?" Aren't you sick of his constant doom and gloom messaging? My god, it's draining.
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