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Post by stiffy1957 on Sept 4, 2024 9:11:53 GMT -6
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Post by Billy John Davy on Sept 4, 2024 9:15:20 GMT -6
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Post by gotscha on Sept 5, 2024 6:49:11 GMT -6
Public works are not socialism. Public roads are not socialism. Even public schools are not socialism, although the way they're run they certainly like to advocate for it.
Socialism is based on the collective ownership of the means of production. Trying to explain what 'production' means to someone who has probably never been productive in his entire life is akin to explaining dry land to a fish. He simply has no frame of reference.
Oh, and if they would have let me keep the money they took from my paycheck for Social Security and what my employer paid on my behalf and invest it myself, I would have retired ten years ago. Since they didn't, I am entitled to what paltry amount I will get back. Confiscating someone's wealth for 45 years and then partially paying it back in dribs and drabs is not socialism.
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Post by momof3 on Sept 5, 2024 7:12:07 GMT -6
Public works are not socialism. Public roads are not socialism. Even public schools are not socialism, although the way they're run they certainly like to advocate for it. Socialism is based on the collective ownership of the means of production. Trying to explain what 'production' means to someone who has probably never been productive in his entire life is akin to explaining dry land to a fish. He simply has no frame of reference. Oh, and if they would have let me keep the money they took from my paycheck for Social Security and what my employer paid on my behalf and invest it myself, I would have retired ten years ago. Since they didn't, I am entitled to what paltry amount I will get back. Confiscating someone's wealth for 45 years and then partially paying it back in dribs and drabs is not socialism. Yeah, I don’t get how those things are considered “socialism”. I’ve paid tens of thousands of dollars over the years to the Mehlville School District, yet my kids went to private schools. If anything, I should get some of that money back. But even so, if I had sent my kids to public schools, how would that be socialism?? |
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Post by stargatebabe on Sept 5, 2024 10:33:21 GMT -6
So we spend our working years paying INTO Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid - just like everyone else - and we can't take anything out? Yeah, you can take that idea and shove it up your ass. That sounds about right - he loves for everyone to pay FOR him
Try and get the government to stop taking it out of paychecks and see what happens!
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Post by gotscha on Sept 5, 2024 10:45:23 GMT -6
So we spend our working years paying INTO Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid - just like everyone else - and we can't take anything out? Yeah, you can take that idea and shove it up your ass. That sounds about right - he loves for everyone to pay FOR him Try and get the government to stop taking it out of paychecks and see what happens! Socialism would be if we DIDN'T get anything out of a system we paid into. Then it's called 'welfare' or in modern democrat parlance - 'buying votes.' |
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Post by stargatebabe on Sept 5, 2024 11:53:27 GMT -6
So we spend our working years paying INTO Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid - just like everyone else - and we can't take anything out? Yeah, you can take that idea and shove it up your ass. That sounds about right - he loves for everyone to pay FOR him Try and get the government to stop taking it out of paychecks and see what happens! Socialism would be if we DIDN'T get anything out of a system we paid into. Then it's called 'welfare' or in modern democrat parlance - 'buying votes.' Understood but the clown OP is the one who wants Republicans to not accept Social Security, Medicare or Medicaid but I have a feeling that he has no clue why other than it would leave more money in the pot for him! |
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Post by gotscha on Sept 5, 2024 11:56:11 GMT -6
Socialism would be if we DIDN'T get anything out of a system we paid into. Then it's called 'welfare' or in modern democrat parlance - 'buying votes.' Understood but the clown OP is the one who wants Republicans to not accept Social Security, Medicare or Medicaid but I have a feeling that he has no clue why other than it would leave more money in the pot for him! If they want to pay us back with reasonable accumulated interest - say 5% for each year - for everything we've put in plus the employer paid portion, I'd be fine with not taking Social Security. But we both know that would NEVER happen. |
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Post by stargatebabe on Sept 5, 2024 12:02:20 GMT -6
Understood but the clown OP is the one who wants Republicans to not accept Social Security, Medicare or Medicaid but I have a feeling that he has no clue why other than it would leave more money in the pot for him! If they want to pay us back with reasonable accumulated interest - say 5% for each year - for everything we've put in plus the employer paid portion, I'd be fine with not taking Social Security. But we both know that would NEVER happen. Agreed but then the way the government has things set up, you can't take Medicare without taking Social Security since Medicare comes out of your Social Security check and no, there are no other options! Hell, I might even be happy for them to just replace the money the politicians stole from Social Security but we all know that we, the taxpayers, would be replacing the money and not the politicians |
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Post by longtimereader on Sept 5, 2024 12:30:17 GMT -6
Stiffy is a unemployed slop that just wants a meal ticket on the back of those productive in society.
People like stiffy should not be allowed to vote since they contribute ZERO to society other than being dead weight.
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Post by stiffy1957 on Sept 7, 2024 19:52:26 GMT -6
Public works are not socialism. Public roads are not socialism. Even public schools are not socialism, although the way they're run they certainly like to advocate for it. Socialism is based on the collective ownership of the means of production. Trying to explain what 'production' means to someone who has probably never been productive in his entire life is akin to explaining dry land to a fish. He simply has no frame of reference. Oh, and if they would have let me keep the money they took from my paycheck for Social Security and what my employer paid on my behalf and invest it myself, I would have retired ten years ago. Since they didn't, I am entitled to what paltry amount I will get back. Confiscating someone's wealth for 45 years and then partially paying it back in dribs and drabs is not socialism. Yes they are. anything fr the public good paid for by tax dollars is socialism. You chose not to agree because then you wouldbe a hypocrite. |
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Post by stiffy1957 on Sept 7, 2024 19:55:27 GMT -6
Stiffy is a unemployed slop that just wants a meal ticket on the back of those productive in society. People like stiffy should not be allowed to vote since they contribute ZERO to society other than being dead weight. I am on regular social security. I am not a slob. You know little or nothing about my life. You assume and are making ass of yourself.And I worked for 44 years to get my benefits. I worked taking care of dying patients. So you are wrong again. |
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Post by longtimereader on Sept 8, 2024 5:58:37 GMT -6
Stiffy is a unemployed slop that just wants a meal ticket on the back of those productive in society. People like stiffy should not be allowed to vote since they contribute ZERO to society other than being dead weight. I am on regular social security. I am not a slob. You know little or nothing about my life. You assume and are making ass of yourself.And I worked for 44 years to get my benefits. I worked taking care of dying patients. So you are wrong again. What you don't remember you posting you ate yourself into disability you slob. |
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Post by gotscha on Sept 8, 2024 6:57:53 GMT -6
Public works are not socialism. Public roads are not socialism. Even public schools are not socialism, although the way they're run they certainly like to advocate for it. Socialism is based on the collective ownership of the means of production. Trying to explain what 'production' means to someone who has probably never been productive in his entire life is akin to explaining dry land to a fish. He simply has no frame of reference. Oh, and if they would have let me keep the money they took from my paycheck for Social Security and what my employer paid on my behalf and invest it myself, I would have retired ten years ago. Since they didn't, I am entitled to what paltry amount I will get back. Confiscating someone's wealth for 45 years and then partially paying it back in dribs and drabs is not socialism. Yes they are. anything fr the public good paid for by tax dollars is socialism. You chose not to agree because then you wouldbe a hypocrite. So how many economics classes have you taken? I've actually lost count. Both in undergraduate and graduate school. So it's pretty fair to say I would know the basic definition of an economic system far better than someone who has never studied the topic. But if I ever need advice on changing bedpans, I'll ask you. |
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Post by stiffy1957 on Sept 8, 2024 7:18:30 GMT -6
Yes they are. anything fr the public good paid for by tax dollars is socialism. You chose not to agree because then you wouldbe a hypocrite. So how many economics classes have you taken? I've actually lost count. Both in undergraduate and graduate school. So it's pretty fair to say I would know the basic definition of an economic system far better than someone who has never studied the topic. But if I ever need advice on changing bedpans, I'll ask you. I have taken several. And your rant that you know more than anyone else is laughable. |
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