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Post by moody on Oct 4, 2024 6:59:05 GMT -6
How do I know it’s bullshit? Two reasons. 1. Every jobs number the past three plus years have been overstated, only to be corrected quarters later. 2. It’s an election quarter so of course they will greatly overstate this one. I would bet that the real number is half of this, and almost every one of those “new jobs” were for illegal aliens. www.foxbusiness.com/economy/us-jobs-report-september-2024#&_intcmp=fnhpriver_1 |
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Post by gotmewrong on Oct 4, 2024 7:59:33 GMT -6
The fact that they came out a couple of months ago and admitted that they overstated jobs by nearly 1 million should be enough to convince anybody that they are lying about these numbers.
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Post by oedipustex on Oct 4, 2024 8:02:11 GMT -6
You can go to the bank on this: when there is a Democrat in the White House, jobs numbers are always adjusted down later. When there is a Republican in the White House, numbers are generally about right, or adjusted upwards later, particularly in election years. No matter which party is in control, the administrative state works for Democrats.
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Post by attackrat on Oct 5, 2024 21:34:06 GMT -6
You can go to the bank on this: when there is a Democrat in the White House, jobs numbers are always adjusted down later. When there is a Republican in the White House, numbers are generally about right, or adjusted upwards later, particularly in election years. No matter which party is in control, the administrative state works for Democrats. Can we go to the bank on that though? This argument gets made repeatedly without any evidence to support it being provided. I 'semi-randomly' looked up 3 months of reports from Trump's years (I say 'semi-randomly' because I excluded the Covid year). THE EMPLOYMENT SITUATION — AUGUST 2017 www.bls.gov/news.release/archives/empsit_09012017.pdfThe change in total nonfarm payroll employment for June was revised down from +231,000 to +210,000, and the change for July was revised down from +209,000 to +189,000. With these revisions, employment gains in June and July combined were 41,000 less than previously reported. THE EMPLOYMENT SITUATION — MARCH 2018 www.bls.gov/news.release/archives/empsit_04062018.pdfThe change in total nonfarm payroll employment for January was revised down from +239,000 to +176,000, and the change for February was revised up from +313,000 to +326,000. With these revisions, employment gains in January and February combined were 50,000 less than previously reported. THE EMPLOYMENT SITUATION — AUGUST 2019 www.bls.gov/news.release/archives/empsit_09062019.pdfThe change in total nonfarm payroll employment for June was revised down by 15,000 from +193,000 to +178,000, and the change for July was revised down by 5,000 from +164,000 to +159,000. With these revisions, employment gains in June and July combined were 20,000 less than previously reported. I would love to see the data upon which you are making your claim. Do you have that data? Can you provide me with a link so that I may become less ignorant on the subject? |
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Post by attackrat on Oct 5, 2024 22:40:33 GMT -6
OK. So I ended up doing some of the work. All numbers I cite are from the following website: www.bls.gov/web/empsit/cesnaicsrev.htm#2018Between January 2017 and December 2020 the final reported jobs numbers were revised downwards 24 times (50%) Between January 2021 and July 2024 (the latest they had on the site), the final reported jobs numbers were revised downwards 21 times (48.8%) So the idea that job numbers are always revised downwards when a Democrat is in office which is somehow different from when a Republican is in office is not supported by the data. Interesting, however, is that if you look at the final revised numbers versus the total jobs initially reported: Between January 2017 and December 2020: +524,000 Between January 2021 and July 2024: -1,168,000 |
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Post by stargatebabe on Oct 6, 2024 6:23:31 GMT -6
The fact that they came out a couple of months ago and admitted that they overstated jobs by nearly 1 million should be enough to convince anybody that they are lying about these numbers. TRUTH! I wouldn't believe this administration if they told me today was Sunday October 6, 2024! |
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Post by sheepdawg on Oct 6, 2024 7:17:54 GMT -6
How many new jobs were government jobs?
More than was in the private sector.
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Post by 65 on Oct 6, 2024 11:11:53 GMT -6
The private sector jobs were predominantly in food service and leisure and hospitality
in other words……low wage…
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Post by gotscha on Oct 7, 2024 6:37:26 GMT -6
The private sector jobs were predominantly in food service and leisure and hospitality in other words……low wage… In other words: illegal migrants...err... asylum seekers (who probably won't show up to their hearings). |
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Post by moody on Oct 7, 2024 6:44:17 GMT -6
The private sector jobs were predominantly in food service and leisure and hospitality in other words……low wage… In other words: illegal migrants...err... asylum seekers (who probably won't show up to their hearings). We already know that all net job gains since 2020 are employment of illegal aliens. I refuse to call them “migrants.” More leftist narrative control bullshit. |
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Post by gotscha on Oct 7, 2024 7:02:56 GMT -6
In other words: illegal migrants...err... asylum seekers (who probably won't show up to their hearings). We already know that all net job gains since 2020 are employment of illegal aliens. I refuse to call them “migrants.” More leftist narrative control bullshit. Immigrant, migrant, who cares? The key word is 'illegal.' The only reason Kamala thinks they're legal is because they regurgitated the phrases they were taught when they arrived at the border to claim asylum. The vast majority are 'economic asylum' seekers, which isn't a valid category or reason to be granted asylum. For the few who do show up to their hearing years in the future, very few will be granted asylum. But since they're already here and have probably dropped a few anchor babies in the meantime, getting them out even after their asylum claim has been denied will be almost impossible. The vast majority won't even bother to show up for their hearings. |
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Post by 65 on Oct 7, 2024 13:08:56 GMT -6
The private sector jobs were predominantly in food service and leisure and hospitality in other words……low wage… In other words: illegal migrants...err... asylum seekers (who probably won't show up to their hearings). Sugar and the regime calls them “newcomers “ |
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Post by Aesa on Oct 7, 2024 13:13:52 GMT -6
In other words: illegal migrants...err... asylum seekers (who probably won't show up to their hearings). Sugar and the regime calls them “newcomers “ All the illegal, undocumented "newcomers" should be "new LEAVERS" in the immediate future. |
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