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Post by Billy John Davy on Oct 8, 2024 11:43:22 GMT -6
I highly doubt many noncitizens intentionally lie on the registration for, and risk a felony prosecution and deportation to cast their one vote. hahahahhahahahahahahahaha. You dont think an illegal alien gives a shit about US election law? all tbose boosters must have rotted your brain
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Post by gotmewrong on Oct 8, 2024 11:58:45 GMT -6
I encourage ANYONE who is a U.S. citizen to get a passport. That is the ultimate proof of citizenship. Even if you don't expect to ever travel to a foreign country, having a passport is the gold standard of identification. To get a 'real-id' requires almost the same number of hoops as a passport, so it's kind of nuts that there's no citizenship indicator on the ID itself. That would make things simpler but then I'm convinced that there are many out there that don't want simple because simple is harder to hack. That's why I feel like any non-citizen who fraudulently votes in an election - even if 'just' a local election - should be immediately deported. No 'woe is me' excuses and no more 'but my family is here!' excuses. Put up signs at all polling places warning people of the penalties and then let the chips fall as they may. There was a case of British citizen a few years ago. If I remember correctly he was a permanent resident but not yet a citizen, and lived in St. Louis area but I think on the Illinois side. He was asked to register to vote when he got his drivers license, and mistakenly thought he was eligible. He voted and then ended up nearly getting deported. I highly doubt many noncitizens intentionally lie on the registration for, and risk a felony prosecution and deportation to cast their one vote. He should have been deported.
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Post by gotscha on Oct 8, 2024 12:51:16 GMT -6
I encourage ANYONE who is a U.S. citizen to get a passport. That is the ultimate proof of citizenship. Even if you don't expect to ever travel to a foreign country, having a passport is the gold standard of identification. To get a 'real-id' requires almost the same number of hoops as a passport, so it's kind of nuts that there's no citizenship indicator on the ID itself. That would make things simpler but then I'm convinced that there are many out there that don't want simple because simple is harder to hack. That's why I feel like any non-citizen who fraudulently votes in an election - even if 'just' a local election - should be immediately deported. No 'woe is me' excuses and no more 'but my family is here!' excuses. Put up signs at all polling places warning people of the penalties and then let the chips fall as they may. There was a case of British citizen a few years ago. If I remember correctly he was a permanent resident but not yet a citizen, and lived in St. Louis area but I think on the Illinois side. He was asked to register to vote when he got his drivers license, and mistakenly thought he was eligible. He voted and then ended up nearly getting deported. I highly doubt many noncitizens intentionally lie on the registration for, and risk a felony prosecution and deportation to cast their one vote. I'm not buying it. How do you mistakenly forget you're not a citizen?
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Post by markbelding on Oct 8, 2024 14:02:47 GMT -6
Look I don't know if anyone who should not be voting is voting or even whether it a problem or not, but I see a potential of creating votes in specific high stakes area such as Milwaukee that can effect an election and I would like to know that the people voting in Milwaukee actually live their are are eligible to vote. This shouldn't be that fucking hard.
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Post by stargatebabe on Oct 8, 2024 17:50:56 GMT -6
I encourage ANYONE who is a U.S. citizen to get a passport. That is the ultimate proof of citizenship. Even if you don't expect to ever travel to a foreign country, having a passport is the gold standard of identification. To get a 'real-id' requires almost the same number of hoops as a passport, so it's kind of nuts that there's no citizenship indicator on the ID itself. That would make things simpler but then I'm convinced that there are many out there that don't want simple because simple is harder to hack. That's why I feel like any non-citizen who fraudulently votes in an election - even if 'just' a local election - should be immediately deported. No 'woe is me' excuses and no more 'but my family is here!' excuses. Put up signs at all polling places warning people of the penalties and then let the chips fall as they may. Id piggyback your suggestion by recommending the Passport card for those who wouldnt travel internationally. Much easier to carry and valid everywhere. Agree - I love my passport card - except for it can't be used for identification for voting in the State of Ohio - not sure of anywhere else.
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Post by Billy John Davy on Oct 8, 2024 18:07:48 GMT -6
Id piggyback your suggestion by recommending the Passport card for those who wouldnt travel internationally. Much easier to carry and valid everywhere. Agree - I love my passport card - except for it can't be used for identification for voting in the State of Ohio - not sure of anywhere else. Same here as it has no address
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Post by 3 Sport Town on Oct 8, 2024 20:17:26 GMT -6
Here is the case I was referring to. www.kansascity.com/news/nation-world/article218684795.htmlIllinois priest nearing citizenship now faces deportation. Because he mistakenly voted His supporters say the Rev. David Boase was thrilled earlier this year when an immigration official said he had completed all steps to U.S. citizenship, short of taking the oath. Later, however, a government letter broke the news that will culminate in a hearing next week in Kansas City: citizenship denied. You need to go back to England. While processing the final papers on Boase’s path to citizenship, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services discovered that the retired Episcopal priest made the grave mistake of voting — just once — in a 2006 election. Voting when not a U.S. citizen “is like a capital offense” in the eyes of federal authorities, said Jessica Piedra, a Kansas City immigration lawyer unfamiliar with Boase’s case. Even if done unknowingly, “it’s the worse thing you can do.” Boase, who migrated 14 years ago to Illinois to serve Episcopal churches, told USCIS he was unaware at the time that only citizens can cast ballots in federal elections. Moreover, Boase said he agreed to register while obtaining his driver’s license at a state Department of Motor Vehicles office, after presenting his British passport as identification. Read more at: www.kansascity.com/news/nation-world/article218684795.html#storylink=cpy
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Post by 3 Sport Town on Oct 8, 2024 20:25:03 GMT -6
I highly doubt many noncitizens intentionally lie on the registration for, and risk a felony prosecution and deportation to cast their one vote. hahahahhahahahahahahahaha. You dont think an illegal alien gives a shit about US election law? all tbose boosters must have rotted your brain Immigrants that are here illegally are here to work not vote, they are not stupid why would they try to vote and risk deportation. Besides they don’t have a social security number or in most states cannot get a drivers license, you need one or the other to register to vote.
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Post by gotscha on Oct 9, 2024 5:30:10 GMT -6
Here is the case I was referring to. www.kansascity.com/news/nation-world/article218684795.htmlIllinois priest nearing citizenship now faces deportation. Because he mistakenly voted His supporters say the Rev. David Boase was thrilled earlier this year when an immigration official said he had completed all steps to U.S. citizenship, short of taking the oath. Later, however, a government letter broke the news that will culminate in a hearing next week in Kansas City: citizenship denied. You need to go back to England. While processing the final papers on Boase’s path to citizenship, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services discovered that the retired Episcopal priest made the grave mistake of voting — just once — in a 2006 election. Voting when not a U.S. citizen “is like a capital offense” in the eyes of federal authorities, said Jessica Piedra, a Kansas City immigration lawyer unfamiliar with Boase’s case. Even if done unknowingly, “it’s the worse thing you can do.” Boase, who migrated 14 years ago to Illinois to serve Episcopal churches, told USCIS he was unaware at the time that only citizens can cast ballots in federal elections. Moreover, Boase said he agreed to register while obtaining his driver’s license at a state Department of Motor Vehicles office, after presenting his British passport as identification. Read more at: www.kansascity.com/news/nation-world/article218684795.html#storylink=cpyWhat part of 'short of taking the oath' was unclear to him? EVERYONE knows that voting is for citizens - except for a few progressives, of course. Even a priest can lie. Citizenship denied.
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Post by stargatebabe on Oct 9, 2024 6:13:37 GMT -6
Here is the case I was referring to. www.kansascity.com/news/nation-world/article218684795.htmlIllinois priest nearing citizenship now faces deportation. Because he mistakenly voted His supporters say the Rev. David Boase was thrilled earlier this year when an immigration official said he had completed all steps to U.S. citizenship, short of taking the oath. Later, however, a government letter broke the news that will culminate in a hearing next week in Kansas City: citizenship denied. You need to go back to England. While processing the final papers on Boase’s path to citizenship, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services discovered that the retired Episcopal priest made the grave mistake of voting — just once — in a 2006 election. Voting when not a U.S. citizen “is like a capital offense” in the eyes of federal authorities, said Jessica Piedra, a Kansas City immigration lawyer unfamiliar with Boase’s case. Even if done unknowingly, “it’s the worse thing you can do.” Boase, who migrated 14 years ago to Illinois to serve Episcopal churches, told USCIS he was unaware at the time that only citizens can cast ballots in federal elections. Moreover, Boase said he agreed to register while obtaining his driver’s license at a state Department of Motor Vehicles office, after presenting his British passport as identification. Read more at: www.kansascity.com/news/nation-world/article218684795.html#storylink=cpyHe should have thought to ask that very important question BEFORE he voted! We have laws for a reason. Deport him!
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Post by stargatebabe on Oct 9, 2024 6:14:56 GMT -6
Here is the case I was referring to. www.kansascity.com/news/nation-world/article218684795.htmlIllinois priest nearing citizenship now faces deportation. Because he mistakenly voted His supporters say the Rev. David Boase was thrilled earlier this year when an immigration official said he had completed all steps to U.S. citizenship, short of taking the oath. Later, however, a government letter broke the news that will culminate in a hearing next week in Kansas City: citizenship denied. You need to go back to England. While processing the final papers on Boase’s path to citizenship, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services discovered that the retired Episcopal priest made the grave mistake of voting — just once — in a 2006 election. Voting when not a U.S. citizen “is like a capital offense” in the eyes of federal authorities, said Jessica Piedra, a Kansas City immigration lawyer unfamiliar with Boase’s case. Even if done unknowingly, “it’s the worse thing you can do.” Boase, who migrated 14 years ago to Illinois to serve Episcopal churches, told USCIS he was unaware at the time that only citizens can cast ballots in federal elections. Moreover, Boase said he agreed to register while obtaining his driver’s license at a state Department of Motor Vehicles office, after presenting his British passport as identification. Read more at: www.kansascity.com/news/nation-world/article218684795.html#storylink=cpy What part of 'short of taking the oath' was unclear to him? EVERYONE knows that voting is for citizens - except for a few progressives, of course. Even a priest can lie. Citizenship denied. Exactly!
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Post by gotscha on Oct 9, 2024 7:08:57 GMT -6
What part of 'short of taking the oath' was unclear to him? EVERYONE knows that voting is for citizens - except for a few progressives, of course. Even a priest can lie. Citizenship denied. Exactly! The scary part is that as an Episcopalian priest, he's probably well-educated. It's not like he's some backwoods preacher with no secondary education. And yet his entire defense is him claiming ignorance. That is why I think he's lying. Even an uneducated, backwoods preacher would know that voting is based on citizenship and if you haven't taken the oath, you aren't a citizen. It's only a few progressives in some very deep blue areas of the country that are trying to change that.
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Post by Billy John Davy on Oct 9, 2024 7:47:02 GMT -6
they are not stupid why would they try to vote and risk deportation. you're fucking hilarious. you think illegals are worried at ALL about deportation?
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Post by stargatebabe on Oct 9, 2024 8:08:29 GMT -6
The scary part is that as an Episcopalian priest, he's probably well-educated. It's not like he's some backwoods preacher with no secondary education. And yet his entire defense is him claiming ignorance. That is why I think he's lying. Even an uneducated, backwoods preacher would know that voting is based on citizenship and if you haven't taken the oath, you aren't a citizen. It's only a few progressives in some very deep blue areas of the country that are trying to change that. My complaint is along the same lines - he should have asked someone. Since he didn't and thought he knew all of our laws and voted anyway, toss his ass back to England! If you are in a foreign country and don't know something, RESEARCH IT, ASK SOMEONE WHO DOES KNOW - don't just assume cuz guaranteed most of the time that will come back to bite you in the ass. Just ask Brittany Griner!
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Post by attackrat on Oct 9, 2024 22:37:37 GMT -6
Look I don't know if anyone who should not be voting is voting or even whether it a problem or not, but I see a potential of creating votes in specific high stakes area such as Milwaukee that can effect an election and I would like to know that the people voting in Milwaukee actually live their are are eligible to vote. This shouldn't be that fucking hard. Welcome to politics in 2024. Everything is harder than it needs to be because the extremes dominate everything. There are pragmatic solutions to the problems our country faces. But they aren’t going to win you elections.
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