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Post by Starbuck on Nov 6, 2024 19:36:38 GMT -6
I post this as a non-supporter of Trump. Simply sharing some unbiased facts for your consideration. It is claimed that Biden received 81.3M "votes" in 2020, compared to 74.2M for Trump. And with just a few percent of ballots left to be "counted", Trump has received 72.4M votes compared to 67.7 for Harris. Hmmm. Trump received fewer "votes" than 4 years ago and yet won in an electoral landslide. Harris currently has nearly 14M fewer "votes" than Biden received 4 years ago. She is a "woman". She is a "person of color". In a party that promotes and celebrates those identity politics factors. So how is it possible that she received 14M fewer "votes" than the white, male, senile octogenarian for whom she worked the past 4 years? Or did she? Instead, was it simply the case that DEMs created and harvested 14M ballots 4 years ago by rigging COVID-year "voter" registration, and "ballot" distribution/completion/collection - as well as handling and counting processes? The fact that Trump received FEWER "votes" than 4 years ago and yet won in a landslide strongly indicates that is indeed the case. No one will ever know for certain, but it certainly appears that Trump won the actual valid ballots for the 3rd time last night.
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Post by mikeinez on Nov 7, 2024 5:06:15 GMT -6
I'm not one to subscribe to conspiracy theories. I generally don't talk politics with friends or acquaintances if I know we support different parties because I don't think it is worth losing a relationship over politics. However, the few people I did speak with about it said thay they weren't voting for either candidate. Maybe Kamala was just so unappealing that 14 million people shared the same ideology. She is simply uninspiring and obviously unqualified to lead a country. That being said, 14 million is a huge disparity. Perhaps we can chalk this up to another "conspiracy theory" that Trump was right about.
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Post by Cool Papa Con on Nov 7, 2024 5:26:21 GMT -6
I'm not one to subscribe to conspiracy theories. I generally don't talk politics with friends or acquaintances if I know we support different parties because I don't think it is worth losing a relationship over politics. However, the few people I did speak with about it said thay they weren't voting for either candidate. Maybe Kamala was just so unappealing that 14 million people shared the same ideology. She is simply uninspiring and obviously unqualified to lead a country. That being said, 14 million is a huge disparity. Perhaps we can chalk this up to another "conspiracy theory" that Trump was right about. I agree and would be curious to see the analytics showing where the votes were lost to. I am curious where the greatest drop in voter demographics occurred. Age, Gender, Race, Religion, LGBTQ+? Region such as states or even rural/suburban/urban? I know 3rd or 4th party candidates, like Jill Stein & Robert Kennedy, appeared on a lot of ballots. Obviously, write in was an option, too, but did those “3rd Options” draw significantly more attention than the prior election? It’s hard to imagine “Option 3” amounted to 15M votes, but I know it took a chunk out of the pie.
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Post by moody on Nov 7, 2024 8:33:48 GMT -6
I post this as a non-supporter of Trump. Simply sharing some unbiased facts for your consideration. It is claimed that Biden received 81.3M "votes" in 2020, compared to 74.2M for Trump. And with just a few percent of ballots left to be "counted", Trump has received 72.4M votes compared to 67.7 for Harris. Hmmm. Trump received fewer "votes" than 4 years ago and yet won in an electoral landslide. Harris currently has nearly 14M fewer "votes" than Biden received 4 years ago. She is a "woman". She is a "person of color". In a party that promotes and celebrates those identity politics factors. So how is it possible that she received 14M fewer "votes" than the white, male, senile octogenarian for whom she worked the past 4 years? Or did she? Instead, was it simply the case that DEMs created and harvested 14M ballots 4 years ago by rigging COVID-year "voter" registration, and "ballot" distribution/completion/collection - as well as handling and counting processes? The fact that Trump received FEWER "votes" than 4 years ago and yet won in a landslide strongly indicates that is indeed the case. No one will ever know for certain, but it certainly appears that Trump won the actual valid ballots for the 3rd time last night. Yes, you are correct, sir. 2020’s election was stolen. We need a real investigation by congress. It can never happen again.
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Post by Starbuck on Nov 7, 2024 13:47:01 GMT -6
I post this as a non-supporter of Trump. Simply sharing some unbiased facts for your consideration. It is claimed that Biden received 81.3M "votes" in 2020, compared to 74.2M for Trump. And with just a few percent of ballots left to be "counted", Trump has received 72.4M votes compared to 67.7 for Harris. Hmmm. Trump received fewer "votes" than 4 years ago and yet won in an electoral landslide. Harris currently has nearly 14M fewer "votes" than Biden received 4 years ago. She is a "woman". She is a "person of color". In a party that promotes and celebrates those identity politics factors. So how is it possible that she received 14M fewer "votes" than the white, male, senile octogenarian for whom she worked the past 4 years? Or did she? Instead, was it simply the case that DEMs created and harvested 14M ballots 4 years ago by rigging COVID-year "voter" registration, and "ballot" distribution/completion/collection - as well as handling and counting processes? The fact that Trump received FEWER "votes" than 4 years ago and yet won in a landslide strongly indicates that is indeed the case. No one will ever know for certain, but it certainly appears that Trump won the actual valid ballots for the 3rd time last night. Yes, you are correct, sir. 2020’s election was stolen. We need a real investigation by congress. It can never happen again. Trump himself made it possible. He badly mismanaged the COVID response - and ironically bribed state and local officials around the nation to abuse the powers of their office. Many illegal and unconstitutional actions took place - including the corruption of the 2020 election process And Trump provided the money to do it. Far too late, he realized the stupidity of his actions - and could do nothing about it. I believe that was the primary driving force of his anger - which led to even more poor decisions. Was the 2020 election rigged? Zero question. Was Trump a victim? Nope. He was the enabler. I do agree with your last point. And investigation and new legislation is necessary to prevent abuse in the future.
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Post by str8shooter on Nov 7, 2024 13:54:25 GMT -6
Yes, you are correct, sir. 2020’s election was stolen. We need a real investigation by congress. It can never happen again. Trump himself made it possible. He badly mismanaged the COVID response - and ironically bribed state and local officials around the nation to abuse the powers of their office. Many illegal and unconstitutional actions took place - including the corruption of the 2020 election process And Trump provided the money to do it. Far too late, he realized the stupidity of his actions - and could do nothing about it. I believe that was the primary driving force of his anger - which led to even more poor decisions. Was the 2020 election rigged? Zero question. Was Trump a victim? Nope. He was the enabler. I do agree with your last point. And investigation and new legislation is necessary to prevent abuse in the future. Bullshit. Provide evidence of what you claim.
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Post by moody on Nov 7, 2024 14:14:18 GMT -6
Yes, you are correct, sir. 2020’s election was stolen. We need a real investigation by congress. It can never happen again. Trump himself made it possible. He badly mismanaged the COVID response - and ironically bribed state and local officials around the nation to abuse the powers of their office. Many illegal and unconstitutional actions took place - including the corruption of the 2020 election process And Trump provided the money to do it. Far too late, he realized the stupidity of his actions - and could do nothing about it. I believe that was the primary driving force of his anger - which led to even more poor decisions. Was the 2020 election rigged? Zero question. Was Trump a victim? Nope. He was the enabler. I do agree with your last point. And investigation and new legislation is necessary to prevent abuse in the future. I will have to be honest, when the Covid scam was being executed I had no idea how it would ultimately impact the 2020 election. You seem to expect a lot from Trump. It was his first Covid scam too. Do you type on a Telex? Or do you just dislike paragraph breaks? 😊
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Post by Aesa on Nov 7, 2024 14:22:18 GMT -6
Word salads. Seems to be a common factor with lefties.
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Post by JDCJJ on Nov 7, 2024 14:31:28 GMT -6
I post this as a non-supporter of Trump. Simply sharing some unbiased facts for your consideration. It is claimed that Biden received 81.3M "votes" in 2020, compared to 74.2M for Trump. And with just a few percent of ballots left to be "counted", Trump has received 72.4M votes compared to 67.7 for Harris. Hmmm. Trump received fewer "votes" than 4 years ago and yet won in an electoral landslide. Harris currently has nearly 14M fewer "votes" than Biden received 4 years ago. She is a "woman". She is a "person of color". In a party that promotes and celebrates those identity politics factors. So how is it possible that she received 14M fewer "votes" than the white, male, senile octogenarian for whom she worked the past 4 years? Or did she? Instead, was it simply the case that DEMs created and harvested 14M ballots 4 years ago by rigging COVID-year "voter" registration, and "ballot" distribution/completion/collection - as well as handling and counting processes? The fact that Trump received FEWER "votes" than 4 years ago and yet won in a landslide strongly indicates that is indeed the case. No one will ever know for certain, but it certainly appears that Trump won the actual valid ballots for the 3rd time last night. Yes...We are all to believe and accept that Scranton Joe Biden is the most popular Presidential candidate to ever win the White House. Nothing to see here...move along.
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Post by sheepdawg on Nov 7, 2024 14:40:48 GMT -6
81 million my ass.
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Post by JDCJJ on Nov 7, 2024 15:15:08 GMT -6
have yet to see any reasonable explanation for where 20 million Democrat voters went.
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Post by mikeinez on Nov 7, 2024 15:35:15 GMT -6
have yet to see any reasonable explanation for where 20 million Democrat voters went. Don't hold your breath. Libs are trying to spin it that Republicans engaged in voter suppression.
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Post by Aesa on Nov 7, 2024 16:41:10 GMT -6
I can't remember where I saw this but it made a ton of sense. All those mysterious 2020 votes went back to the graveyards from wince they came.
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Post by 3 Sport Town on Nov 7, 2024 17:17:31 GMT -6
I post this as a non-supporter of Trump. Simply sharing some unbiased facts for your consideration. It is claimed that Biden received 81.3M "votes" in 2020, compared to 74.2M for Trump. And with just a few percent of ballots left to be "counted", Trump has received 72.4M votes compared to 67.7 for Harris. Hmmm. Trump received fewer "votes" than 4 years ago and yet won in an electoral landslide. Harris currently has nearly 14M fewer "votes" than Biden received 4 years ago. She is a "woman". She is a "person of color". In a party that promotes and celebrates those identity politics factors. So how is it possible that she received 14M fewer "votes" than the white, male, senile octogenarian for whom she worked the past 4 years? Or did she? Instead, was it simply the case that DEMs created and harvested 14M ballots 4 years ago by rigging COVID-year "voter" registration, and "ballot" distribution/completion/collection - as well as handling and counting processes? The fact that Trump received FEWER "votes" than 4 years ago and yet won in a landslide strongly indicates that is indeed the case. No one will ever know for certain, but it certainly appears that Trump won the actual valid ballots for the 3rd time last night. God this is so clueless. There are millions of votes left to count, California only counted 60% so far. So probably another 7 million more in California alone. Trump will probably have close to 80 million in the end and Kamala more than 74 million Trump had last time. You cannot rig voter registration, the parties dig through registration they are real people, turnout was probably somewhat higher in 2020 due to more options for mail in ballots in 2020. But doubt much different total in the end, People who voted for Biden four years ago, were upset about inflation, immigration or some other issue and decided to vote for Trump. It is also very apparent that some men in this country white, Latino and black sadly are not ready to vote for a women president.
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Post by Starbuck on Nov 7, 2024 20:17:39 GMT -6
Trump himself made it possible. He badly mismanaged the COVID response - and ironically bribed state and local officials around the nation to abuse the powers of their office. Many illegal and unconstitutional actions took place - including the corruption of the 2020 election process And Trump provided the money to do it. Far too late, he realized the stupidity of his actions - and could do nothing about it. I believe that was the primary driving force of his anger - which led to even more poor decisions. Was the 2020 election rigged? Zero question. Was Trump a victim? Nope. He was the enabler. I do agree with your last point. And investigation and new legislation is necessary to prevent abuse in the future. Bullshit. Provide evidence of what you claim. Look at the 2020 spending bills Trump's administration demanded and signed. He bribed state and local officials to abuse the power of their office and financed the many illegal processes which impacted the election and allowed the DEMs to manufacture 80M+ "votes". Trump paid for the election rigging - then complained when he finally figured out what he had done.
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