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Post by str8shooter on Nov 7, 2024 20:20:45 GMT -6
Bullshit. Provide evidence of what you claim. Look at the 2020 spending bills Trump's administration demanded and signed. He bribed state and local officials to abuse the power of their office and financed the many illegal processes which impacted the election and allowed the DEMs to manufacture 80M+ "votes". Trump paid for the election rigging - then complained when he finally figured out what he had done. Do you understand what evidence is? You state bullshit and can't link anything. Provide the evidence. You can't. |
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Post by Starbuck on Nov 7, 2024 20:25:31 GMT -6
Trump himself made it possible. He badly mismanaged the COVID response - and ironically bribed state and local officials around the nation to abuse the powers of their office. Many illegal and unconstitutional actions took place - including the corruption of the 2020 election process And Trump provided the money to do it. Far too late, he realized the stupidity of his actions - and could do nothing about it. I believe that was the primary driving force of his anger - which led to even more poor decisions. Was the 2020 election rigged? Zero question. Was Trump a victim? Nope. He was the enabler. I do agree with your last point. And investigation and new legislation is necessary to prevent abuse in the future. I will have to be honest, when the Covid scam was being executed I had no idea how it would ultimately impact the 2020 election. You seem to expect a lot from Trump. It was his first Covid scam too. Do you type on a Telex? Or do you just dislike paragraph breaks? 😊 I expect basic sound judgment from any president. Trump's judgement in 2020 was the worst by any president in the prior 75+ years (and quickly matched by Biden). Which, by my standards, disqualified him in this past election. Harris was an even worse option. As for paragraphs, I use them where appropriate. But I have found this formatting to work far more effectively in this type of on-line communication. |
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Post by moody on Nov 7, 2024 20:34:09 GMT -6
I will have to be honest, when the Covid scam was being executed I had no idea how it would ultimately impact the 2020 election. You seem to expect a lot from Trump. It was his first Covid scam too. Do you type on a Telex? Or do you just dislike paragraph breaks? 😊 I expect basic sound judgment from any president. Trump's judgement in 2020 was the worst by any president in the prior 75+ years (and quickly matched by Biden). Which, by my standards, disqualified him in this past election. Harris was an even worse option. As for paragraphs, I use them where appropriate. But I have found this formatting to work far more effectively in this type of on-line communication. I was teasing. Seems like you never seem react to humor or anything less than completely serious. |
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Post by Starbuck on Nov 7, 2024 20:40:04 GMT -6
I post this as a non-supporter of Trump. Simply sharing some unbiased facts for your consideration. It is claimed that Biden received 81.3M "votes" in 2020, compared to 74.2M for Trump. And with just a few percent of ballots left to be "counted", Trump has received 72.4M votes compared to 67.7 for Harris. Hmmm. Trump received fewer "votes" than 4 years ago and yet won in an electoral landslide. Harris currently has nearly 14M fewer "votes" than Biden received 4 years ago. She is a "woman". She is a "person of color". In a party that promotes and celebrates those identity politics factors. So how is it possible that she received 14M fewer "votes" than the white, male, senile octogenarian for whom she worked the past 4 years? Or did she? Instead, was it simply the case that DEMs created and harvested 14M ballots 4 years ago by rigging COVID-year "voter" registration, and "ballot" distribution/completion/collection - as well as handling and counting processes? The fact that Trump received FEWER "votes" than 4 years ago and yet won in a landslide strongly indicates that is indeed the case. No one will ever know for certain, but it certainly appears that Trump won the actual valid ballots for the 3rd time last night. God this is so clueless. There are millions of votes left to count, California only counted 60% so far. So probably another 7 million more in California alone. Trump will probably have close to 80 million in the end and Kamala more than 74 million Trump had last time. You cannot rig voter registration, the parties dig through registration they are real people, turnout was probably somewhat higher in 2020 due to more options for mail in ballots in 2020. But doubt much different total in the end, People who voted for Biden four years ago, were upset about inflation, immigration or some other issue and decided to vote for Trump. It is also very apparent that some men in this country white, Latino and black sadly are not ready to vote for a women president. Estimates I have seen today put the uncounted ballots between 2-3 million. Kamala is sitting on 69M now. She will end up with 10M+ fewer "votes" than Biden was credited with 4 years ago - and without those missing 10M+ moving to Trump. There were over 158M "votes" counted in 2020. There are about 140M "votes" counted so far in 2024. Zero question COVID election abuses allowed for the creation of more than 10M extra "votes". |
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Post by Starbuck on Nov 7, 2024 20:42:01 GMT -6
Well, they pulled 10M+ from somewhere. |
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Post by Starbuck on Nov 7, 2024 20:43:33 GMT -6
I expect basic sound judgment from any president. Trump's judgement in 2020 was the worst by any president in the prior 75+ years (and quickly matched by Biden). Which, by my standards, disqualified him in this past election. Harris was an even worse option. As for paragraphs, I use them where appropriate. But I have found this formatting to work far more effectively in this type of on-line communication. I was teasing. Seems like you never seem react to humor or anything less than completely serious. Fair point. That said, you will see my humor from time to time. |
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Post by 3 Sport Town on Nov 7, 2024 21:24:05 GMT -6
God this is so clueless. There are millions of votes left to count, California only counted 60% so far. So probably another 7 million more in California alone. Trump will probably have close to 80 million in the end and Kamala more than 74 million Trump had last time. You cannot rig voter registration, the parties dig through registration they are real people, turnout was probably somewhat higher in 2020 due to more options for mail in ballots in 2020. But doubt much different total in the end, People who voted for Biden four years ago, were upset about inflation, immigration or some other issue and decided to vote for Trump. It is also very apparent that some men in this country white, Latino and black sadly are not ready to vote for a women president. Estimates I have seen today put the uncounted ballots between 2-3 million. Kamala is sitting on 69M now. She will end up with 10M+ fewer "votes" than Biden was credited with 4 years ago - and without those missing 10M+ moving to Trump. There were over 158M "votes" counted in 2020. There are about 140M "votes" counted so far in 2024. Zero question COVID election abuses allowed for the creation of more than 10M extra "votes". Sorry you are seeing wrong data. According to Washington Post “Voter turnout in this year’s presidential election is expected to be close to the record high set in 2020, according to a Washington Post analysis of data from the Associated Press and the University of Florida Election Lab. According to NBC News 6.3M remain uncounted in California alone. www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/california-results63% expected votes in (Est. remaining 6,234,000) |
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Post by Starbuck on Nov 15, 2024 9:06:37 GMT -6
With an anticipated 98% of "ballots" counted, Harris remains more than 8 million "votes" behind Biden's total in 2020.
The total number of "ballots" decreased by more than 6 million.
Over 100% of Biden's 2020 "winning margin" in the swing states that determined the "election" came from "ballots" harvested through temporary and illegal changes to the distribution and collection of "mail-in ballots".
There were 20 million more "mail in ballots" received before election "day" in 2020, than in 2024.
Though we will never know with certainty, it is obvious the 2020 "election" was rigged in favor of Biden and Trump actually won the legally cast and counted votes.
It is clear that FDR and Trump are the only presidents in history to win 3 or more presidential elections.
Nixon may well have done so as well, but the 1960 election remains a very murky election, and it is difficult to draw a firm conclusion.
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Post by lighthouse on Nov 15, 2024 16:52:52 GMT -6
Yes, you are correct, sir. 2020’s election was stolen. We need a real investigation by congress. It can never happen again. Trump himself made it possible. He badly mismanaged the COVID response - and ironically bribed state and local officials around the nation to abuse the powers of their office. Many illegal and unconstitutional actions took place - including the corruption of the 2020 election process And Trump provided the money to do it. Far too late, he realized the stupidity of his actions - and could do nothing about it. I believe that was the primary driving force of his anger - which led to even more poor decisions. Was the 2020 election rigged? Zero question. Was Trump a victim? Nope. He was the enabler. I do agree with your last point. And investigation and new legislation is necessary to prevent abuse in the future. On the Trump's mismanagement, I disagree with you. The bureaucracy, the system, Fauci's domain, doesn't matter who was occupying the White House, the system should have been ready and prepared. President G.W. Bush initiated readiness for an upcoming pandemic. The system was somewhat prepared, but the Obama/Biden administration faced several challenges (missteps) during their handling of the H1N1 influenza pandemic in 2009. Some of the notable missteps included, Vaccine Production Delays, Communication Issues, Resource Allocation. But the biggest mishap, the system didn't replenish the resources. Some states, such as New York, for budget reasons, opted not to replenish the ventilators. Even when resources were made available, by Trump, to the states, such as New York, Trump couldn't force New York to utilize the resources. You have Governors, like Cuomo, whatever was done right, was due to his actions, all the wrong was due to Trump's action. If you don't believe me, read his book. Note, the MSM awarded Cuomo an Emmy for his efforts, surprise? |
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Post by keefdaman on Nov 16, 2024 13:00:37 GMT -6
Trump himself made it possible. He badly mismanaged the COVID response - and ironically bribed state and local officials around the nation to abuse the powers of their office. Many illegal and unconstitutional actions took place - including the corruption of the 2020 election process And Trump provided the money to do it. Far too late, he realized the stupidity of his actions - and could do nothing about it. I believe that was the primary driving force of his anger - which led to even more poor decisions. Was the 2020 election rigged? Zero question. Was Trump a victim? Nope. He was the enabler. I do agree with your last point. And investigation and new legislation is necessary to prevent abuse in the future. On the Trump's mismanagement, I disagree with you. The bureaucracy, the system, Fauci's domain, doesn't matter who was occupying the White House, the system should have been ready and prepared. President G.W. Bush initiated readiness for an upcoming pandemic. The system was somewhat prepared, but the Obama/Biden administration faced several challenges (missteps) during their handling of the H1N1 influenza pandemic in 2009. Some of the notable missteps included, Vaccine Production Delays, Communication Issues, Resource Allocation. But the biggest mishap, the system didn't replenish the resources. Some states, such as New York, for budget reasons, opted not to replenish the ventilators. Even when resources were made available, by Trump, to the states, such as New York, Trump couldn't force New York to utilize the resources. You have Governors, like Cuomo, whatever was done right, was due to his actions, all the wrong was due to Trump's action. If you don't believe me, read his book. Note, the MSM awarded Cuomo an Emmy for his efforts, surprise? Cuomo was later removed from office. |
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Post by keefdaman on Nov 16, 2024 13:04:44 GMT -6
God this is so clueless. There are millions of votes left to count, California only counted 60% so far. So probably another 7 million more in California alone. Trump will probably have close to 80 million in the end and Kamala more than 74 million Trump had last time. You cannot rig voter registration, the parties dig through registration they are real people, turnout was probably somewhat higher in 2020 due to more options for mail in ballots in 2020. But doubt much different total in the end, People who voted for Biden four years ago, were upset about inflation, immigration or some other issue and decided to vote for Trump. It is also very apparent that some men in this country white, Latino and black sadly are not ready to vote for a women president. Estimates I have seen today put the uncounted ballots between 2-3 million. Kamala is sitting on 69M now. She will end up with 10M+ fewer "votes" than Biden was credited with 4 years ago - and without those missing 10M+ moving to Trump. There were over 158M "votes" counted in 2020. There are about 140M "votes" counted so far in 2024. Zero question COVID election abuses allowed for the creation of more than 10M extra "votes". Probably were abuses and can never be proven. PA is now trying to pull the same stunt as they did in 2020. Keep counting and finding boxes of ballots that favor the democrat until the democrat has more votes. |
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Post by Starbuck on Nov 16, 2024 16:55:46 GMT -6
Estimates I have seen today put the uncounted ballots between 2-3 million. Kamala is sitting on 69M now. She will end up with 10M+ fewer "votes" than Biden was credited with 4 years ago - and without those missing 10M+ moving to Trump. There were over 158M "votes" counted in 2020. There are about 140M "votes" counted so far in 2024. Zero question COVID election abuses allowed for the creation of more than 10M extra "votes". Probably were abuses and can never be proven. PA is now trying to pull the same stunt as they did in 2020. Keep counting and finding boxes of ballots that favor the democrat until the democrat has more votes. True. Ever since 2008, the DEMs have been committed to "saving democracy" by attempting to destroy it. Or, more correctly, they are on a crusade to destroy our representative republic, since in fact America has never been a democracy and should never seek to be. |
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Post by onemizzou on Nov 17, 2024 20:00:02 GMT -6
Yes, you are correct, sir. 2020’s election was stolen. We need a real investigation by congress. It can never happen again. Trump himself made it possible. He badly mismanaged the COVID response - and ironically bribed state and local officials around the nation to abuse the powers of their office. Many illegal and unconstitutional actions took place - including the corruption of the 2020 election process And Trump provided the money to do it. Far too late, he realized the stupidity of his actions - and could do nothing about it. I believe that was the primary driving force of his anger - which led to even more poor decisions. Was the 2020 election rigged? Zero question. Was Trump a victim? Nope. He was the enabler. I do agree with your last point. And investigation and new legislation is necessary to prevent abuse in the future. I believe that the Republican party in the battleground states took steps to ensure that the fraudulent voting was pretty much curtailed. Just look at the vote count. 8 million votes from 2020 just disappeared. It's unprecedented that anyone got over 70 million votes (let alone 80 million) to begin with and to think that Joe Biden inspired anyone to actually vote for him other than the regular leftists idiots is preposterous. Those votes disappeared because there those people never existed. |
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Post by Aesa on Nov 17, 2024 20:08:16 GMT -6
Trump himself made it possible. He badly mismanaged the COVID response - and ironically bribed state and local officials around the nation to abuse the powers of their office. Many illegal and unconstitutional actions took place - including the corruption of the 2020 election process And Trump provided the money to do it. Far too late, he realized the stupidity of his actions - and could do nothing about it. I believe that was the primary driving force of his anger - which led to even more poor decisions. Was the 2020 election rigged? Zero question. Was Trump a victim? Nope. He was the enabler. I do agree with your last point. And investigation and new legislation is necessary to prevent abuse in the future. I believe that the Republican party in the battleground states took steps to ensure that the fraudulent voting was pretty much curtailed. Just look at the vote count. 8 million votes from 2020 just disappeared. It's unprecedented that anyone got over 70 million votes (let alone 80 million) to begin with and to think that Joe Biden inspired anyone to actually vote for him other than the regular leftists idiots is preposterous. Those votes disappeared because there those people never existed. And those 3 "commissioners" in PA counting disqualified ballots need to be arrested immediately for voter fraud and be tried and sent to prison. The video of their vote to count those ballots should be more than enough to convict them. |
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