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Post by tekriter on Nov 19, 2024 12:49:02 GMT -6
You’re right about one thing - the total lack of evidence, of witnesses, of absolutely any demonstrable facts that support your theory hasn’t convinced you that just maybe you are wrong. do you know what I think? I don’t think that you have the intellectual curiosity to even find out. You rely on your pre-conceived and programmed notions. I think that you are a ready and willing victim of propaganda. I think that you also completely lack the curiosity to break your spell. So, we have been honest with each other. It feels good, doesn’t it? OK, then, satisfy my curiosity by PROVIDING SOME EVEIDENCE.
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Post by moody on Nov 19, 2024 12:50:40 GMT -6
do you know what I think? I don’t think that you have the intellectual curiosity to even find out. You rely on your pre-conceived and programmed notions. I think that you are a ready and willing victim of propaganda. I think that you also completely lack the curiosity to break your spell. So, we have been honest with each other. It feels good, doesn’t it? OK, then, satisfy my curiosity by PROVIDING SOME EVEIDENCE. We have done this dance before. I provide evidence and spend a hour typing it up then instead of exploring, you ask me to prove to you how it was exactly and specifically carried out. I’ll pass. It’s a frustrating experience for both of us.
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Post by onemizzou on Nov 19, 2024 15:11:21 GMT -6
OK, then, satisfy my curiosity by PROVIDING SOME EVEIDENCE. We have done this dance before. I provide evidence and spend a hour typing it up then instead of exploring, you ask me to prove to you how it was exactly and specifically carried out. I’ll pass. It’s a frustrating experience for both of us. Just from a common sense stand point explain the simple requirement to keep thousands of people silent and also keep anyone from knowing that this clandestine operation was installing tons of explosives into THREE downtown Manhattan buildings? How long did it take and how many people is it estimated to require. I mean as part of ANY operation like this there would have had to have been years of planning and coordination so lets just get that one out of the way then maybe we can listen to the melting metal nonsense that you continually post.
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Post by moody on Nov 19, 2024 15:26:43 GMT -6
We have done this dance before. I provide evidence and spend a hour typing it up then instead of exploring, you ask me to prove to you how it was exactly and specifically carried out. I’ll pass. It’s a frustrating experience for both of us. Just from a common sense stand point explain the simple requirement to keep thousands of people silent and also keep anyone from knowing that this clandestine operation was installing tons of explosives into THREE downtown Manhattan buildings? How long did it take and how many people is it estimated to require. I mean as part of ANY operation like this there would have had to have been years of planning and coordination so lets just get that one out of the way then maybe we can listen to the melting metal nonsense that you continually post. I get it, you think 9/11 happened just like the media and your government told you. Funny, but had a democrat been of office you might listen.
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Post by onemizzou on Nov 19, 2024 16:37:40 GMT -6
Just from a common sense stand point explain the simple requirement to keep thousands of people silent and also keep anyone from knowing that this clandestine operation was installing tons of explosives into THREE downtown Manhattan buildings? How long did it take and how many people is it estimated to require. I mean as part of ANY operation like this there would have had to have been years of planning and coordination so lets just get that one out of the way then maybe we can listen to the melting metal nonsense that you continually post. I get it, you think 9/11 happened just like the media and your government told you. Funny, but had a democrat been of office you might listen. So, you won't even try to explain the most obvious problem with your little conspiracy. You should stop posting until you come up with something that's not completely braindead. You started this because the deep state is being exposed and you think that would give your nutty conspiracies a boost. Sorry, nutty conspiracies are just nutty conspiracies. What really won the election was common sense and that is what your conspiracy is completely devoid of.
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Post by tekriter on Nov 19, 2024 19:56:43 GMT -6
OK, then, satisfy my curiosity by PROVIDING SOME EVEIDENCE. We have done this dance before. I provide evidence and spend a hour typing it up then instead of exploring, you ask me to prove to you how it was exactly and specifically carried out. I’ll pass. It’s a frustrating experience for both of us. The alleged “evidence” you have provided in the past has been crap like “this guy says it couldn’t happen that way” or “this other guy says it can only be explained by a planned demolition”. Never any evidence of explosive residue, drill marks, WITNESSES, confessions from people involved. Oh, there have been stories - stories - from people claiming “there were people we didn’t know down there and we don’t know what they were doing”. Got anything, you know, actual?
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Post by attackrat on Nov 19, 2024 22:52:36 GMT -6
Are you seriously comparing and project to benefit this country to a project to damage the country? People will certainly keep a secret if it's to help the country but there is no way that a project the size and type of 9/11 could be kept a secret. To this day there is NO ONE that has admitted to doing what you claim, NO ONE. That, in and of itself, is impossible. Who admitted that they actually shot JFK? LHO said he was a patsy, right before he was conveniently murdered. Bin Ladin also initially denied that he involved in the mass death on 9/11, before they badly faked his “confession tape”, where looks different, is much heavier, and has changed his dominant hand. He was announced dead by Fox News in late 2001. Then, years later after skillfully avoiding American troops (even though CNN could interview him prior to 9/11) he was supposedly killed in a daring Seal team raid, where he was killed, the “most valuable intelligence source on the planet”, and his body was dumped in the ocean before his identity could be confirmed. Obama and Clinton are heroes, the year of the 2012 election. Yeah, nothing fishy to that whole episode. Anyone who says so is a conspiracy theorist. Oh yeah bonus time, OBL was a known CIA asset who helped fight Russia in Afghanistan. We armed his little army. People forget that. Look at how confident Moody is in his post... "Obama and Clinton are heroes, the year of the 2012 election."... Bin Laden was killed in 2011, which is not the year of the 2012 election. The election was held in 2012, Bin Laden was killed in 2011. And it was in the month of May, not even within a calendar year of the 2012 election. Even if he doesn't believe the 'official story', his narrative of the 'official story' is completely wrong. Either Moody is trying to gaslight or he is ignorant of the events. Moody has cited that the BBC reported the collapse of WTC 7 before it actually happened. The critical point not mentioned is that it was after the NYFD stopped trying to fight the fire in that building because they felt a collapse was imminent. Now, I don't know if you guys remember the news reporting on 9/11/2001, but if you don't you should watch it 'as it happened' on YouTube. There were explosions reported at the State Department. But that didn't actually happen. The news reporting on 9/11/2001 was like the game of telephone we played in elementary school... Only some people continue to think like elementary school children because some guys with nickels and dimes in their pockets said so. But everyone else are the sheep!
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Post by moody on Nov 20, 2024 1:15:16 GMT -6
Who admitted that they actually shot JFK? LHO said he was a patsy, right before he was conveniently murdered. Bin Ladin also initially denied that he involved in the mass death on 9/11, before they badly faked his “confession tape”, where looks different, is much heavier, and has changed his dominant hand. He was announced dead by Fox News in late 2001. Then, years later after skillfully avoiding American troops (even though CNN could interview him prior to 9/11) he was supposedly killed in a daring Seal team raid, where he was killed, the “most valuable intelligence source on the planet”, and his body was dumped in the ocean before his identity could be confirmed. Obama and Clinton are heroes, the year of the 2012 election. Yeah, nothing fishy to that whole episode. Anyone who says so is a conspiracy theorist. Oh yeah bonus time, OBL was a known CIA asset who helped fight Russia in Afghanistan. We armed his little army. People forget that. Look at how confident Moody is in his post... "Obama and Clinton are heroes, the year of the 2012 election."... Bin Laden was killed in 2011, which is not the year of the 2012 election. The election was held in 2012, Bin Laden was killed in 2011. And it was in the month of May, not even within a calendar year of the 2012 election. Even if he doesn't believe the 'official story', his narrative of the 'official story' is completely wrong. Either Moody is trying to gaslight or he is ignorant of the events. Moody has cited that the BBC reported the collapse of WTC 7 before it actually happened. The critical point not mentioned is that it was after the NYFD stopped trying to fight the fire in that building because they felt a collapse was imminent. Now, I don't know if you guys remember the news reporting on 9/11/2001, but if you don't you should watch it 'as it happened' on YouTube. There were explosions reported at the State Department. But that didn't actually happen. The news reporting on 9/11/2001 was like the game of telephone we played in elementary school... Only some people continue to think like elementary school children because some guys with nickels and dimes in their pockets said so. But everyone else are the sheep! Moody went from memory. My bad on the date. Oh, and quit being such a prick. It was an honest mistake. 2011 or 2012 it helped the re-election of the communist prick Obama.
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Post by moody on Nov 20, 2024 7:41:32 GMT -6
We have done this dance before. I provide evidence and spend a hour typing it up then instead of exploring, you ask me to prove to you how it was exactly and specifically carried out. I’ll pass. It’s a frustrating experience for both of us. The alleged “evidence” you have provided in the past has been crap like “this guy says it couldn’t happen that way” or “this other guy says it can only be explained by a planned demolition”. Never any evidence of explosive residue, drill marks, WITNESSES, confessions from people involved. Oh, there have been stories - stories - from people claiming “there were people we didn’t know down there and we don’t know what they were doing”. Got anything, you know, actual? Rather than “inside job” I prefer to say the official 9/11 story, provided by our government, is full of lies and half truths. Here is one example with extensive scientific evidence. Let’s start with building 7. The largest and most far-reaching scientific study on the Building 7 collapse was done by the University of Alaska Fairbanks, just a few years ago. files.wtc7report.org/file/public-download/A-Structural-Reevaluation-of-the-Collapse-of-World-Trade-Center-7-March2020.pdfP.S. it will take you days to read and absorb this study. I will see your response when, next Tuesday? I am joking, of course. As per usual you will no doubt immediately dismiss it without reviewing it, because it didn’t align with the preprogrammed propaganda that you acquired through MSM osmosis, and not a lengthy study of the facts. I can honestly say that I HAVE PUT THIS TIME IN. Hopefully you understand the implications of lying about why this building collapsed. Not only lying, but going out of their way to lie with a rigged report on the 9/11 collapse, forced by demands from the public, which took years to produce. They lied about Building 7. Once you understand that, it opens up the flood gates as you break the programming. The proverbial rabbit hole.
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Post by tekriter on Nov 20, 2024 10:47:47 GMT -6
The alleged “evidence” you have provided in the past has been crap like “this guy says it couldn’t happen that way” or “this other guy says it can only be explained by a planned demolition”. Never any evidence of explosive residue, drill marks, WITNESSES, confessions from people involved. Oh, there have been stories - stories - from people claiming “there were people we didn’t know down there and we don’t know what they were doing”. Got anything, you know, actual? Rather than “inside job” I prefer to say the official 9/11 story, provided by our government, is full of lies and half truths. Here is one example with extensive scientific evidence. Let’s start with building 7. The largest and most far-reaching scientific study on the Building 7 collapse was done by the University of Alaska Fairbanks, just a few years ago. files.wtc7report.org/file/public-download/A-Structural-Reevaluation-of-the-Collapse-of-World-Trade-Center-7-March2020.pdfP.S. it will take you days to read and absorb this study. I will see your response when, next Tuesday? I am joking, of course. As per usual you will no doubt immediately dismiss it without reviewing it, because it didn’t align with the preprogrammed propaganda that you acquired through MSM osmosis, and not a lengthy study of the facts. I can honestly say that I HAVE PUT THIS TIME IN. Hopefully you understand the implications of lying about why this building collapsed. Not only lying, but going out of their way to lie with a rigged report on the 9/11 collapse, forced by demands from the public, which took years to produce. They lied about Building 7. Once you understand that, it opens up the flood gates as you break the programming. The proverbial rabbit hole. Oh, I didn't want you to wait until next Tuesday. So, I downloaded the report (again) and started reading... ...and right there in the beginning: The UAF research team utilized three approaches for examining the structural response of WTC 7 to the conditions that may have occurred on September 11, 2001. First, we simulated
the local structural response to fire loading that may have occurred below Floor 13, where most of the fires in WTC 7 are reported to have occurred. Second, we supplemented our own simulation by examining the collapse initiation hypothesis developed by the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST). Third, we simulated several scenarios within the overall structural system in order to determine what types of local failures and their locations may have caused the total collapse to occur as observed... Before I read further, do they ever actually examine actual parts of the building?
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Post by moody on Nov 20, 2024 11:20:50 GMT -6
Rather than “inside job” I prefer to say the official 9/11 story, provided by our government, is full of lies and half truths. Here is one example with extensive scientific evidence. Let’s start with building 7. The largest and most far-reaching scientific study on the Building 7 collapse was done by the University of Alaska Fairbanks, just a few years ago. files.wtc7report.org/file/public-download/A-Structural-Reevaluation-of-the-Collapse-of-World-Trade-Center-7-March2020.pdfP.S. it will take you days to read and absorb this study. I will see your response when, next Tuesday? I am joking, of course. As per usual you will no doubt immediately dismiss it without reviewing it, because it didn’t align with the preprogrammed propaganda that you acquired through MSM osmosis, and not a lengthy study of the facts. I can honestly say that I HAVE PUT THIS TIME IN. Hopefully you understand the implications of lying about why this building collapsed. Not only lying, but going out of their way to lie with a rigged report on the 9/11 collapse, forced by demands from the public, which took years to produce. They lied about Building 7. Once you understand that, it opens up the flood gates as you break the programming. The proverbial rabbit hole. Oh, I didn't want you to wait until next Tuesday. So, I downloaded the report (again) and started reading... ...and right there in the beginning: The UAF research team utilized three approaches for examining the structural response of WTC 7 to the conditions that may have occurred on September 11, 2001. First, we simulated
the local structural response to fire loading that may have occurred below Floor 13, where most of the fires in WTC 7 are reported to have occurred. Second, we supplemented our own simulation by examining the collapse initiation hypothesis developed by the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST). Third, we simulated several scenarios within the overall structural system in order to determine what types of local failures and their locations may have caused the total collapse to occur as observed... Before I read further, do they ever actually examine actual parts of the building? Wow, really? You do everything to avoid thinking. Of course it’s simulated. Do you think they would actually construct a 47 story building to destroy it? Meanwhile, NIST REFUSED TO SHARE THEIR COLLAPSE MODEL. DOING SO WOULD “JEOPARDIZE PUBLIC SAFETY.” You and Onemizzou never mention that. I predicted this would happen. I show you evidence and you find every excuse not to review it. Nothing has changed. Just stop.
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Post by abuxb on Nov 20, 2024 14:57:12 GMT -6
Are you seriously comparing and project to benefit this country to a project to damage the country? People will certainly keep a secret if it's to help the country but there is no way that a project the size and type of 9/11 could be kept a secret. To this day there is NO ONE that has admitted to doing what you claim, NO ONE. That, in and of itself, is impossible. Who admitted that they actually shot JFK? LHO said he was a patsy, right before he was conveniently murdered. Bin Ladin also initially denied that he involved in the mass death on 9/11, before they badly faked his “confession tape”, where looks different, is much heavier, and has changed his dominant hand. He was announced dead by Fox News in late 2001. Then, years later after skillfully avoiding American troops (even though CNN could interview him prior to 9/11) he was supposedly killed in a daring Seal team raid, where he was killed, the “most valuable intelligence source on the planet”, and his body was dumped in the ocean before his identity could be confirmed. Obama and Clinton are heroes, the year of the 2012 election. Yeah, nothing fishy to that whole episode. Anyone who says so is a conspiracy theorist. Oh yeah bonus time, OBL was a known CIA asset who helped fight Russia in Afghanistan. We armed his little army. People forget that. Your willful ignorance is once again missing the point. Someone claiming Oswald had a partner and a 2nd shooter in Dallas 51 years ago means that ONE OTHER suspect somehow slipped thru the cracks. Very possible when one considers the scope of investigation in that era, compared to the forensic equipment available today. But that magnifies how stupid one would have to be to claim that the biggest buildings in America were targeted for total demolition, and it was done without a single one of the tens of thousands of daily workers/visitors to these buildings ever seeing or noticing one thing out of place while the explosives were set in place. Seek professional help, Moody.
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Post by moody on Nov 20, 2024 15:13:33 GMT -6
Who admitted that they actually shot JFK? LHO said he was a patsy, right before he was conveniently murdered. Bin Ladin also initially denied that he involved in the mass death on 9/11, before they badly faked his “confession tape”, where looks different, is much heavier, and has changed his dominant hand. He was announced dead by Fox News in late 2001. Then, years later after skillfully avoiding American troops (even though CNN could interview him prior to 9/11) he was supposedly killed in a daring Seal team raid, where he was killed, the “most valuable intelligence source on the planet”, and his body was dumped in the ocean before his identity could be confirmed. Obama and Clinton are heroes, the year of the 2012 election. Yeah, nothing fishy to that whole episode. Anyone who says so is a conspiracy theorist. Oh yeah bonus time, OBL was a known CIA asset who helped fight Russia in Afghanistan. We armed his little army. People forget that. Your willful ignorance is once again missing the point. Someone claiming Oswald had a partner and a 2nd shooter in Dallas 51 years ago means that ONE OTHER suspect somehow slipped thru the cracks. Very possible when one considers the scope of investigation in that era, compared to the forensic equipment available today. But that magnifies how stupid one would have to be to claim that the biggest buildings in America were targeted for total demolition, and it was done without a single one of the tens of thousands of daily workers/visitors to these buildings ever seeing or noticing one thing out of place while the explosives were set in place. Seek professional help, Moody. Says the guy who pretends to be a despised poster from the old place, and does a horrible job. Seriously, you suck at this.
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Post by onemizzou on Nov 20, 2024 16:35:59 GMT -6
The alleged “evidence” you have provided in the past has been crap like “this guy says it couldn’t happen that way” or “this other guy says it can only be explained by a planned demolition”. Never any evidence of explosive residue, drill marks, WITNESSES, confessions from people involved. Oh, there have been stories - stories - from people claiming “there were people we didn’t know down there and we don’t know what they were doing”. Got anything, you know, actual? Rather than “inside job” I prefer to say the official 9/11 story, provided by our government, is full of lies and half truths. Here is one example with extensive scientific evidence. Let’s start with building 7. The largest and most far-reaching scientific study on the Building 7 collapse was done by the University of Alaska Fairbanks, just a few years ago. files.wtc7report.org/file/public-download/A-Structural-Reevaluation-of-the-Collapse-of-World-Trade-Center-7-March2020.pdfP.S. it will take you days to read and absorb this study. I will see your response when, next Tuesday? I am joking, of course. As per usual you will no doubt immediately dismiss it without reviewing it, because it didn’t align with the preprogrammed propaganda that you acquired through MSM osmosis, and not a lengthy study of the facts. I can honestly say that I HAVE PUT THIS TIME IN. Hopefully you understand the implications of lying about why this building collapsed. Not only lying, but going out of their way to lie with a rigged report on the 9/11 collapse, forced by demands from the public, which took years to produce. They lied about Building 7. Once you understand that, it opens up the flood gates as you break the programming. The proverbial rabbit hole. Why did it collapse?
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Post by tekriter on Nov 20, 2024 17:32:58 GMT -6
Oh, I didn't want you to wait until next Tuesday. So, I downloaded the report (again) and started reading... ...and right there in the beginning: The UAF research team utilized three approaches for examining the structural response of WTC 7 to the conditions that may have occurred on September 11, 2001. First, we simulated
the local structural response to fire loading that may have occurred below Floor 13, where most of the fires in WTC 7 are reported to have occurred. Second, we supplemented our own simulation by examining the collapse initiation hypothesis developed by the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST). Third, we simulated several scenarios within the overall structural system in order to determine what types of local failures and their locations may have caused the total collapse to occur as observed... Before I read further, do they ever actually examine actual parts of the building? Wow, really? You do everything to avoid thinking. Of course it’s simulated. Do you think they would actually construct a 47 story building to destroy it? Meanwhile, NIST REFUSED TO SHARE THEIR COLLAPSE MODEL. DOING SO WOULD “JEOPARDIZE PUBLIC SAFETY.” You and Onemizzou never mention that. I predicted this would happen. I show you evidence and you find every excuse not to review it. Nothing has changed. Just stop. Oh, I dunno...maybe examine the ACTUAL DEBRIS for explosive residue, evidence of drilling or cutting, stuff like that.
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