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Post by stargatebabe on Nov 16, 2024 14:23:34 GMT -6
North Carolina Democrat floats 'shadow cabinet' to take on Trump administrationWith President-elect Trump headed back to the White House and Republicans in the majority in Congress, Democrats have few options to push back against the GOP agenda.
But one enterprising North Carolina lawmaker thinks his minority party should look across the pond to the United Kingdom for the answer to "go toe to toe" with Trump. Rep. WIley Nickels, D-N.C., has proposed that Democrats create a "shadow cabinet" to organize the opposition and challenge each decision by the government.
"Across the Atlantic, the British have something we don’t: a team from the opposition that mirrors the government’s cabinet members. They watch the cabinet closely, publicly challenging, scrutinizing and offering new ideas. It’s another form of checks and balances — a quiet guardrail that keeps power accountable," Wiley argues in an op-ed for the Washington Post.
His proposal is to appoint 26 Democratic leaders in Congress to mirror Trump's Cabinet-level officials and challenge each initiative of the incoming administration. Sen.-elect Adam Schiff, D-Calif., for instance, could be a shadow attorney general who would call out Trump's efforts to replace career Justice Department attorneys with those loyal to the president. Or Rep. Gregory W. Meeks, D-N.Y., might be a shadow Secretary of State who would loudly oppose potential action by the Trump administration that would decrease support for Ukraine in its war with Russia.
"We have to step up our game. We have to go toe to toe with Trump. And it's not just about saying, you know what, what we're against. It's about saying what we're for and putting our best messengers out there," Nickel told CNN's Laura Coates in a recent interview.
In the U.K., a shadow cabinet is a team of opposition leaders that reflect the ruling party's cabinet members. The shadow cabinet has a counterpart for every minister in the ruling coalition's government.
It's a system Nickel argues has worked for a century.
"They watch the Cabinet closely, publicly challenging, scrutinizing and offering new ideas," Nickel wrote in his op-ed. "It’s democracy’s insurance policy. And it strengthens the government, too: There is no room for lazy ideas when rivals stand ready."
There are key differences between the U.S. and U.K. governments that might complicate this idea. The most obvious being that the U.K. uses a parliamentary system, where multiple parties form coalition governments as opposed to the dual party system Americans have. The U.K. prime minister is the head of government and leads the Cabinet, which exercises the executive power.
The American founders intentionally created a different system. The U.S. Constitution invests the legislative power in Congress and the authority to enforce laws in the Executive Branch, which is led by the president. The president's cabinet officials each head different executive agencies, which are created by Congress but not administered by lawmakers. Read more @ www.foxnews.com/politics/north-carolina-democrat-floats-shadow-cabinet-take-trump-administrationYet another idiot Democrat who can't read the writing on the wall! If these clowns are stupid enough to pull something so unconstitutional, when the lawsuit is filed, all 26 "shadows", and the owner of this idiot idea, have to be named and each of them thrown out of Congress, permanently!
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Post by Billy John Davy on Nov 16, 2024 15:19:09 GMT -6
There is no need to appoint elected dems to do that; the unelected dem media already question every Republican proposal.
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Post by arrass on Nov 16, 2024 18:39:48 GMT -6
North Carolina Democrat floats 'shadow cabinet' to take on Trump administrationWith President-elect Trump headed back to the White House and Republicans in the majority in Congress, Democrats have few options to push back against the GOP agenda.
But one enterprising North Carolina lawmaker thinks his minority party should look across the pond to the United Kingdom for the answer to "go toe to toe" with Trump. Rep. WIley Nickels, D-N.C., has proposed that Democrats create a "shadow cabinet" to organize the opposition and challenge each decision by the government.
"Across the Atlantic, the British have something we don’t: a team from the opposition that mirrors the government’s cabinet members. They watch the cabinet closely, publicly challenging, scrutinizing and offering new ideas. It’s another form of checks and balances — a quiet guardrail that keeps power accountable," Wiley argues in an op-ed for the Washington Post.
His proposal is to appoint 26 Democratic leaders in Congress to mirror Trump's Cabinet-level officials and challenge each initiative of the incoming administration. Sen.-elect Adam Schiff, D-Calif., for instance, could be a shadow attorney general who would call out Trump's efforts to replace career Justice Department attorneys with those loyal to the president. Or Rep. Gregory W. Meeks, D-N.Y., might be a shadow Secretary of State who would loudly oppose potential action by the Trump administration that would decrease support for Ukraine in its war with Russia.
"We have to step up our game. We have to go toe to toe with Trump. And it's not just about saying, you know what, what we're against. It's about saying what we're for and putting our best messengers out there," Nickel told CNN's Laura Coates in a recent interview.
In the U.K., a shadow cabinet is a team of opposition leaders that reflect the ruling party's cabinet members. The shadow cabinet has a counterpart for every minister in the ruling coalition's government.
It's a system Nickel argues has worked for a century.
"They watch the Cabinet closely, publicly challenging, scrutinizing and offering new ideas," Nickel wrote in his op-ed. "It’s democracy’s insurance policy. And it strengthens the government, too: There is no room for lazy ideas when rivals stand ready."
There are key differences between the U.S. and U.K. governments that might complicate this idea. The most obvious being that the U.K. uses a parliamentary system, where multiple parties form coalition governments as opposed to the dual party system Americans have. The U.K. prime minister is the head of government and leads the Cabinet, which exercises the executive power.
The American founders intentionally created a different system. The U.S. Constitution invests the legislative power in Congress and the authority to enforce laws in the Executive Branch, which is led by the president. The president's cabinet officials each head different executive agencies, which are created by Congress but not administered by lawmakers. Read more @ www.foxnews.com/politics/north-carolina-democrat-floats-shadow-cabinet-take-trump-administrationYet another idiot Democrat who can't read the writing on the wall! If these clowns are stupid enough to pull something so unconstitutional, when the lawsuit is filed, all 26 "shadows", and the owner of this idiot idea, have to be named and each of them thrown out of Congress, permanently! What is unconstitutional about it? |
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Post by stargatebabe on Nov 16, 2024 18:40:43 GMT -6
There is no need to appoint elected dems to do that; the unelected dem media already question every Republican proposal. Apparently Wiley must not think they are doing such a great job of questioning! |
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Post by 65 on Nov 16, 2024 19:50:11 GMT -6
So this guy wants to obstruct what a huge majority of the country voted for…
Dumb as a rock
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Post by floridaanticub on Nov 16, 2024 20:55:53 GMT -6
More crackpot ideas from the Left. They came up with similar moronic schemes in 2016. It’s all a waste of time and a distraction from the need for the party to do some serious introspection.
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Post by Aesa on Nov 16, 2024 21:03:30 GMT -6
More crackpot ideas from the Left. They came up with similar moronic schemes in 2016. It’s all a waste of time and a distraction from the need for the party to do some serious introspection.True. But they will never learn and it is going to cost them big in 26 and 28 |
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Post by stargatebabe on Nov 17, 2024 7:46:58 GMT -6
So this guy wants to obstruct what a huge majority of the country voted for… Dumb as a rock I guess obstruct is a word that can be use although I can see why he would want to use "challenge" instead of "obstruct". Can you imagine the outrage if Republicans were to do this to Democrats? The whining would never stop! Please don't insult rocks!  |
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Post by stargatebabe on Nov 17, 2024 7:52:14 GMT -6
More crackpot ideas from the Left. They came up with similar moronic schemes in 2016. It’s all a waste of time and a distraction from the need for the party to do some serious introspection. Apparently the party refuses to do any introspection. They are correct and the voters who voted against them are wrong! |
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Post by stargatebabe on Nov 17, 2024 7:52:52 GMT -6
More crackpot ideas from the Left. They came up with similar moronic schemes in 2016. It’s all a waste of time and a distraction from the need for the party to do some serious introspection.True. But they will never learn and it is going to cost them big in 26 and 28One can only hope! |
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Post by stargatebabe on Nov 17, 2024 8:01:07 GMT -6
North Carolina Democrat floats 'shadow cabinet' to take on Trump administrationWith President-elect Trump headed back to the White House and Republicans in the majority in Congress, Democrats have few options to push back against the GOP agenda.
But one enterprising North Carolina lawmaker thinks his minority party should look across the pond to the United Kingdom for the answer to "go toe to toe" with Trump. Rep. WIley Nickels, D-N.C., has proposed that Democrats create a "shadow cabinet" to organize the opposition and challenge each decision by the government.
"Across the Atlantic, the British have something we don’t: a team from the opposition that mirrors the government’s cabinet members. They watch the cabinet closely, publicly challenging, scrutinizing and offering new ideas. It’s another form of checks and balances — a quiet guardrail that keeps power accountable," Wiley argues in an op-ed for the Washington Post.
His proposal is to appoint 26 Democratic leaders in Congress to mirror Trump's Cabinet-level officials and challenge each initiative of the incoming administration. Sen.-elect Adam Schiff, D-Calif., for instance, could be a shadow attorney general who would call out Trump's efforts to replace career Justice Department attorneys with those loyal to the president. Or Rep. Gregory W. Meeks, D-N.Y., might be a shadow Secretary of State who would loudly oppose potential action by the Trump administration that would decrease support for Ukraine in its war with Russia.
"We have to step up our game. We have to go toe to toe with Trump. And it's not just about saying, you know what, what we're against. It's about saying what we're for and putting our best messengers out there," Nickel told CNN's Laura Coates in a recent interview.
In the U.K., a shadow cabinet is a team of opposition leaders that reflect the ruling party's cabinet members. The shadow cabinet has a counterpart for every minister in the ruling coalition's government.
It's a system Nickel argues has worked for a century.
"They watch the Cabinet closely, publicly challenging, scrutinizing and offering new ideas," Nickel wrote in his op-ed. "It’s democracy’s insurance policy. And it strengthens the government, too: There is no room for lazy ideas when rivals stand ready."
There are key differences between the U.S. and U.K. governments that might complicate this idea. The most obvious being that the U.K. uses a parliamentary system, where multiple parties form coalition governments as opposed to the dual party system Americans have. The U.K. prime minister is the head of government and leads the Cabinet, which exercises the executive power.
The American founders intentionally created a different system. The U.S. Constitution invests the legislative power in Congress and the authority to enforce laws in the Executive Branch, which is led by the president. The president's cabinet officials each head different executive agencies, which are created by Congress but not administered by lawmakers. Read more @ www.foxnews.com/politics/north-carolina-democrat-floats-shadow-cabinet-take-trump-administrationYet another idiot Democrat who can't read the writing on the wall! If these clowns are stupid enough to pull something so unconstitutional, when the lawsuit is filed, all 26 "shadows", and the owner of this idiot idea, have to be named and each of them thrown out of Congress, permanently! What is unconstitutional about it? DUH! Two completely different types of government. If the Dems have an issue, why not fight it using the Constitution - that thing that they'd rather use as toilet paper but is our law of the land? - instead of another country's form of government?  ?? I have an even better idea - why not ship all these assholes over to the UK, permanently? I'm thinking they'd be so much happier! I know I would be! |
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Post by arrass on Nov 17, 2024 10:14:38 GMT -6
What is unconstitutional about it? DUH! Two completely different types of government. If the Dems have an issue, why not fight it using the Constitution - that thing that they'd rather use as toilet paper but is our law of the land? - instead of another country's form of government? ?? I have an even better idea - why not ship all these assholes over to the UK, permanently? I'm thinking they'd be so much happier! I know I would be! The shadow cabinet is not an official part of the UK government, nor would it be an official part of the US government. |
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Post by stargatebabe on Nov 17, 2024 11:41:57 GMT -6
DUH! Two completely different types of government. If the Dems have an issue, why not fight it using the Constitution - that thing that they'd rather use as toilet paper but is our law of the land? - instead of another country's form of government? ?? I have an even better idea - why not ship all these assholes over to the UK, permanently? I'm thinking they'd be so much happier! I know I would be! The shadow cabinet is not an official part of the UK government, nor would it be an official part of the US government. So you will be cool with this when the Republicans do it? Talk about sore losers! |
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Post by arrass on Nov 17, 2024 12:00:50 GMT -6
The shadow cabinet is not an official part of the UK government, nor would it be an official part of the US government. So you will be cool with this when the Republicans do it? Talk about sore losers! Why wouldn't I be cool with it? The shadow cabinet has no actual power other than the ability to sway public opinion and point out alternative solutions. |
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Post by oedipustex on Nov 17, 2024 12:19:29 GMT -6
North Carolina Democrat floats 'shadow cabinet' to take on Trump administrationWith President-elect Trump headed back to the White House and Republicans in the majority in Congress, Democrats have few options to push back against the GOP agenda.
But one enterprising North Carolina lawmaker thinks his minority party should look across the pond to the United Kingdom for the answer to "go toe to toe" with Trump. Rep. WIley Nickels, D-N.C., has proposed that Democrats create a "shadow cabinet" to organize the opposition and challenge each decision by the government.
"Across the Atlantic, the British have something we don’t: a team from the opposition that mirrors the government’s cabinet members. They watch the cabinet closely, publicly challenging, scrutinizing and offering new ideas. It’s another form of checks and balances — a quiet guardrail that keeps power accountable," Wiley argues in an op-ed for the Washington Post.
His proposal is to appoint 26 Democratic leaders in Congress to mirror Trump's Cabinet-level officials and challenge each initiative of the incoming administration. Sen.-elect Adam Schiff, D-Calif., for instance, could be a shadow attorney general who would call out Trump's efforts to replace career Justice Department attorneys with those loyal to the president. Or Rep. Gregory W. Meeks, D-N.Y., might be a shadow Secretary of State who would loudly oppose potential action by the Trump administration that would decrease support for Ukraine in its war with Russia.
"We have to step up our game. We have to go toe to toe with Trump. And it's not just about saying, you know what, what we're against. It's about saying what we're for and putting our best messengers out there," Nickel told CNN's Laura Coates in a recent interview.
In the U.K., a shadow cabinet is a team of opposition leaders that reflect the ruling party's cabinet members. The shadow cabinet has a counterpart for every minister in the ruling coalition's government.
It's a system Nickel argues has worked for a century.
"They watch the Cabinet closely, publicly challenging, scrutinizing and offering new ideas," Nickel wrote in his op-ed. "It’s democracy’s insurance policy. And it strengthens the government, too: There is no room for lazy ideas when rivals stand ready."
There are key differences between the U.S. and U.K. governments that might complicate this idea. The most obvious being that the U.K. uses a parliamentary system, where multiple parties form coalition governments as opposed to the dual party system Americans have. The U.K. prime minister is the head of government and leads the Cabinet, which exercises the executive power.
The American founders intentionally created a different system. The U.S. Constitution invests the legislative power in Congress and the authority to enforce laws in the Executive Branch, which is led by the president. The president's cabinet officials each head different executive agencies, which are created by Congress but not administered by lawmakers. Read more @ www.foxnews.com/politics/north-carolina-democrat-floats-shadow-cabinet-take-trump-administrationYet another idiot Democrat who can't read the writing on the wall! If these clowns are stupid enough to pull something so unconstitutional, when the lawsuit is filed, all 26 "shadows", and the owner of this idiot idea, have to be named and each of them thrown out of Congress, permanently! What is unconstitutional about it? I agree. It's constitutional in that has no official capacity, no authority. But what it will do is kill the veneer of bipartisanship the Democrats rely upon to maintain a minimum level of public tolerance for their resistance and, dare I say, divisiveness. Yes, I know, it's only a veneer, but it has some political value for the Dems. |
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