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Post by Cool Papa Con on Nov 10, 2024 7:12:15 GMT -6
My facebook feed has been so polarizing. Hardly anyone toeing the middle of the road. Tons of people crying about the loss of democracy, loss of faith in the US, complaining about comparisons to the rise of the 3rd Reich, etc. etc. On the other side, pure trolling and jubilation w/one lamenting about baby killing simply put most people do not care one bit about the progressive ideology especially coming from Hollywood. Abortion is a different story. Men would never fully understand what goes on in women's mind about the rights. We have to respect their feeling. There’s several gray areas in the abortion argument, but with the verdict of ‘Roe v Wade’ being applied at the Federal Level, it applied a black & white answer that found lots of pushback. Sometimes violent. If you asked people a black & white question without context about baby killing, I imagine the vast majority would say it was wrong. If you asked people a black & white question without context if a person had a right to seek safe medical care in order to prevent serious injury or death, I imagine the vast majority would say it was wrong. So, to apply a sweeping black & white decision to such a polarizing issue through the legal doctrine of stare decisis made for a very tremulous political climate for a diverse landscape to parse. At one point, the Democratic Party used to be the party of the Catholic Church. In more recent times, I’d say the party’s values have shifted to embrace more atheists. When factoring in those polar-opposite religious beliefs into the equation, it’s easy to see why more Christian denominations shifted to the Republican Party because of the sweeping rule of Roe v Wade and that party’s stance on abortions. So, one argued the religiosity of the argument that ‘All Life is Precious,’ and the other clamped down on the argument of ‘Women’s Rights.’ For my wife, this wrought internal turmoil, not necessarily for her sake, because none of the main arguments (incest, rape) for abortion really applied to her at this stage in her life. She was more worried about those tenants for our daughters and being able to have autonomy over her body. Me personally, gave zero fucks. I didn’t like the idea that an abortion so late in the game could occur because a woman came to the conclusion they didn’t want to have that baby. However, I see zero reason for FDA approved contraceptions to be illegal and know that medical science can identify serious health issues for both the child and mother throughout and recognize the need to preserve the life of the mother. Maybe selfishly, I’d rather have guardrails for abortion at a time of when a woman’s body is going through utter hormonal chaos. For me, that’s where I want protections for the baby, and potentially the father. I am more pro-life on the matter, and I do feel a father should have some legal protections… just not full protections. I feel a healthy baby should have full protections, and should not be terminated because life would be “difficult” for the parent to care for a child. Am I aware that certain statistics suggest that child could grow up to be a piece of crap? Sure, but call me a sucker for giving the underdog a chance. We have adoption services. We have government programs to assist underprivileged. I’d rather provide government assistance for that child’s wellbeing than terminate its life because life would be more “difficult” on the care-provider. Finally, why not figure out a way to lower the cost of FDA Approved contraceptions to make them more affordable/available rather than completely outlawing them. This was probably the more invasive aspect of government overreach into women’s rights. Solve the social and or financial difficulties of child rearing for some by limiting the ‘oops’ option, entirely |
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Post by Billy John Davy on Nov 10, 2024 17:02:18 GMT -6
Megyn has a message for the evil liberal women
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Post by oedipustex on Nov 11, 2024 9:04:45 GMT -6
Listen to Uncle Brumm. There is an intellectual cancer spreading throughout the west since before WWII. In America, it picked up steam in academia in the 50s, infecting the 60s generation first. It is the cancer of relativism, a logically self-negating philosophy which manifests as a pseudo-religion. It is perhaps the most blindly dogmatic of all religions. Why? Because the arbiter of truth in relativism is the self, AKA the will. Once a person declares God is dead and places themselves in his vacant seat, it's damned near impossible to get them out of it. So, when arguing with a progressive, it if seems like they have abandoned logic an reason in favor of aggressive emotionalism, it's because they have. There are two known antidotes: religion and Aristotelian philosophy.
The hard left learned NOTHING from their election loss. They will focus on the messaging (i.e. how to lie more convincingly).
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Post by onemizzou on Nov 11, 2024 20:24:31 GMT -6
I found the latest map of the US. 90% is now red and growing. Not sure why the Dems are tone deaf about that That's easy. Like children they want what they want and that is it. They are Marxist Globalists, not Americans, and that's why they won't change. Their ideology is a long term fight and they will not deviate from the mission. We must keep fighting to prevent them from ever gaining power again. |
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Post by onemizzou on Nov 11, 2024 20:26:12 GMT -6
Megyn has a message for the evil liberal women I love Megyn Kelly more every fucking day and I hope she's right. |
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Post by cardiological on Nov 12, 2024 12:05:03 GMT -6
To be clear, I have held the belief for over 20 years that the Democratic Party is all but irredeemable as an institution and has no interest or capability to adjust itself into any kind of constructive contributor to the course of public affairs. But -- and it's still, very very soon -- in the immediate aftermath of last night's decisive rejection of their record and agenda, I have seen a handful of committed Democrats who describe themselves as liberal, progress, or both stating that this outcome should be met with an honest, critical reflecting on what their party means and what it offers to the citizens of the United States. But so far, it's only a handful. At the moment, most of the Democratic commentators and influencers I have seen and heard are still in denial about what this election means to themselves. As for the country, all I can tell is that most of them believe today that the answer for them moving forward is "more of the same, but only louder." OK, that's out of my control but to that small group of reasonable people -- with whom I still disagree with on most issues -- I will offer this as evidence that they are correct about the need for self-assessment and self-reflection -- cite this as striking visual as part of their argurment: www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/11/05/us/elections/results-president.html(NOTE: YOU NEED TO CLICK ON THE "Shift from 2020" button to see the graphic I'm referring to) This above link is the "political shift" map in the NY Times, which is a county by county visualization of where the voters have moved in 2024 as compared to 2020. It's incredible. The Republicans did not win everywhere in this election, but the DIRECTION of political adjustment -- the "Red Shift" -- in this map is univerasal. In in every sector depicted -- EVEN IN BLUE STATES -- the move has been decisively to the rightward direction. This also crosses demographic boundaries; black voters, latino voters, young voters all moved to the right from where they were just four years ago. So, as the "more of the same, only louder" faction of the Democratic Party gears up for the fight, I can only suggest: how far further in this direction do you think the citizenry will move if you do listen to the sober members of your own party OR the American people themselves. A nice analysis, but I strongly disagree with your “more of the same, only louder” diagnosis as representing the majority sentiment of the Democratic Party in the aftermath of the November 5 wipeout. Having now read numerous electoral post mortems spoken or written by party insiders, commentators, politicians, columnists, strategists, winning and losing candidates…the prevailing mood was anything but business as usual but with amplification. From Maureen Dowd to James Carville to Richie Torres to Seth Moulton to Bernie Sanders and practically everyone in between, a new direction and focus shift was deemed imperative. Otherwise the Democrats would likely occupy electoral purgatory for the foreseeable future. At least until the inevitable and eventual overreach by Trumpism. |
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Post by longtimereader on Nov 12, 2024 12:31:45 GMT -6
To be clear, I have held the belief for over 20 years that the Democratic Party is all but irredeemable as an institution and has no interest or capability to adjust itself into any kind of constructive contributor to the course of public affairs. But -- and it's still, very very soon -- in the immediate aftermath of last night's decisive rejection of their record and agenda, I have seen a handful of committed Democrats who describe themselves as liberal, progress, or both stating that this outcome should be met with an honest, critical reflecting on what their party means and what it offers to the citizens of the United States. But so far, it's only a handful. At the moment, most of the Democratic commentators and influencers I have seen and heard are still in denial about what this election means to themselves. As for the country, all I can tell is that most of them believe today that the answer for them moving forward is "more of the same, but only louder." OK, that's out of my control but to that small group of reasonable people -- with whom I still disagree with on most issues -- I will offer this as evidence that they are correct about the need for self-assessment and self-reflection -- cite this as striking visual as part of their argurment: www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/11/05/us/elections/results-president.html(NOTE: YOU NEED TO CLICK ON THE "Shift from 2020" button to see the graphic I'm referring to) This above link is the "political shift" map in the NY Times, which is a county by county visualization of where the voters have moved in 2024 as compared to 2020. It's incredible. The Republicans did not win everywhere in this election, but the DIRECTION of political adjustment -- the "Red Shift" -- in this map is univerasal. In in every sector depicted -- EVEN IN BLUE STATES -- the move has been decisively to the rightward direction. This also crosses demographic boundaries; black voters, latino voters, young voters all moved to the right from where they were just four years ago. So, as the "more of the same, only louder" faction of the Democratic Party gears up for the fight, I can only suggest: how far further in this direction do you think the citizenry will move if you do listen to the sober members of your own party OR the American people themselves. A nice analysis, but I strongly disagree with your “more of the same, only louder” diagnosis as representing the majority sentiment of the Democratic Party in the aftermath of the November 5 wipeout. Having now read numerous electoral post mortems spoken or written by party insiders, commentators, politicians, columnists, strategists, winning and losing candidates…the prevailing mood was anything but business as usual but with amplification. From Maureen Dowd to James Carville to Richie Torres to Seth Moulton to Bernie Sanders and practically everyone in between, a new direction and focus shift was deemed imperative. Otherwise the Democrats would likely occupy electoral purgatory for the foreseeable future. At least until the inevitable and eventual overreach by Trumpism. Those people you list have created the monster that is driving the party now, aka the woke leftist mob. They tried to use that mob as a weapon against anyone "right wing" and it has backfired. There is no way back for the Dems from the mess they created for the short term, they are reaping what they sowed. The Dems cannot alienate those woke leftist, there are too many votes to loose from those woke leftist. Cute "Trumpism" that represents the working class and American people, you really don't like Americans do you. |
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Post by keefdaman on Nov 12, 2024 18:40:37 GMT -6
simply put most people do not care one bit about the progressive ideology especially coming from Hollywood. Abortion is a different story. Men would never fully understand what goes on in women's mind about the rights. We have to respect their feeling. My mother, my wife, all my daughter's, and every woman in my wife's family (she's an immigrant) have all said killing your baby during pregnancy is wrong. It seems what's going on in their mind is very similar to what's going on in my mind. Yes. I voted against Prop 3. Nobody in my extended family believe in abortions. |
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Post by keefdaman on Nov 12, 2024 18:50:23 GMT -6
simply put most people do not care one bit about the progressive ideology especially coming from Hollywood. Abortion is a different story. Men would never fully understand what goes on in women's mind about the rights. We have to respect their feeling. There’s several gray areas in the abortion argument, but with the verdict of ‘Roe v Wade’ being applied at the Federal Level, it applied a black & white answer that found lots of pushback. Sometimes violent. If you asked people a black & white question without context about baby killing, I imagine the vast majority would say it was wrong. If you asked people a black & white question without context if a person had a right to seek safe medical care in order to prevent serious injury or death, I imagine the vast majority would say it was wrong. So, to apply a sweeping black & white decision to such a polarizing issue through the legal doctrine of stare decisis made for a very tremulous political climate for a diverse landscape to parse. At one point, the Democratic Party used to be the party of the Catholic Church. In more recent times, I’d say the party’s values have shifted to embrace more atheists. When factoring in those polar-opposite religious beliefs into the equation, it’s easy to see why more Christian denominations shifted to the Republican Party because of the sweeping rule of Roe v Wade and that party’s stance on abortions. So, one argued the religiosity of the argument that ‘All Life is Precious,’ and the other clamped down on the argument of ‘Women’s Rights.’ For my wife, this wrought internal turmoil, not necessarily for her sake, because none of the main arguments (incest, rape) for abortion really applied to her at this stage in her life. She was more worried about those tenants for our daughters and being able to have autonomy over her body. Me personally, gave zero fucks. I didn’t like the idea that an abortion so late in the game could occur because a woman came to the conclusion they didn’t want to have that baby. However, I see zero reason for FDA approved contraceptions to be illegal and know that medical science can identify serious health issues for both the child and mother throughout and recognize the need to preserve the life of the mother. Maybe selfishly, I’d rather have guardrails for abortion at a time of when a woman’s body is going through utter hormonal chaos. For me, that’s where I want protections for the baby, and potentially the father. I am more pro-life on the matter, and I do feel a father should have some legal protections… just not full protections. I feel a healthy baby should have full protections, and should not be terminated because life would be “difficult” for the parent to care for a child. Am I aware that certain statistics suggest that child could grow up to be a piece of crap? Sure, but call me a sucker for giving the underdog a chance. We have adoption services. We have government programs to assist underprivileged. I’d rather provide government assistance for that child’s wellbeing than terminate its life because life would be more “difficult” on the care-provider. Finally, why not figure out a way to lower the cost of FDA Approved contraceptions to make them more affordable/available rather than completely outlawing them. This was probably the more invasive aspect of government overreach into women’s rights. Solve the social and or financial difficulties of child rearing for some by limiting the ‘oops’ option, entirely Good post! Problem with Roe vs Wade is that the congress never ratified it into the constitution. But they could not because they knew it was still a state matter. This went on for 50 years. The admendment 3 still could get tossed out. A simple majority vote to pass and place in the constitution. Has to be more to this to get it ratified into the constitution. Abortions are really not that safe. Women do die from it or get seriously injured etc |
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Post by keefdaman on Nov 12, 2024 18:54:36 GMT -6
The map showing 90% of the counties red. That is all you need to know what most people thinking is.
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Post by cardiological on Nov 12, 2024 19:28:54 GMT -6
A nice analysis, but I strongly disagree with your “more of the same, only louder” diagnosis as representing the majority sentiment of the Democratic Party in the aftermath of the November 5 wipeout. Having now read numerous electoral post mortems spoken or written by party insiders, commentators, politicians, columnists, strategists, winning and losing candidates…the prevailing mood was anything but business as usual but with amplification. From Maureen Dowd to James Carville to Richie Torres to Seth Moulton to Bernie Sanders and practically everyone in between, a new direction and focus shift was deemed imperative. Otherwise the Democrats would likely occupy electoral purgatory for the foreseeable future. At least until the inevitable and eventual overreach by Trumpism. Those people you list have created the monster that is driving the party now, aka the woke leftist mob. They tried to use that mob as a weapon against anyone "right wing" and it has backfired. There is no way back for the Dems from the mess they created for the short term, they are reaping what they sowed. The Dems cannot alienate those woke leftist, there are too many votes to loose from those woke leftist. Cute "Trumpism" that represents the working class and American people, you really don't like Americans do you. You actually think Seth Moulton is part of, or driving, the woke leftist mob, or advocating “more of the same, only louder”? “I think Dem ocrats as a party spend too much time preaching, preaching down to people, talking down to folks and telling them this is what you need, this is what you want, rather than just getting out there on the ground and listening to everyday Americans,” Moulton told GBH News.
www.wgbh.org/news/politics/2024-11-08/rep-seth-moulton-says-being-out-of-touch-lost-democrats-the-electionYou actually think Richie Torres is part of, or driving, the woke leftist mob, or advocating “more of the same, only louder”? “Donald Trump has no greater friend than the far left, which has managed to alienate historic numbers of Latinos, Blacks, Asians, and Jews from the Democratic Party with absurdities like “Defund the Police” or “From the River to the Sea” or “Latinx.”
There is more to lose than there is to gain politically from pandering to a far left that is more representative of Twitter, Twitch, and TikTok than it is of the real world. The working class is not buying the ivory-towered nonsense that the far left is selling.”You actually think James Carville who has claimed “defund the police” are the three stupidest words in the English language is part of, or driving, the woke leftist mob, or is advocating “more of the same, only louder”? You actually think Maureen Dowd who has mercilessly eviscerated the identity politics of the progressive Left is part of, or driving, the woke leftist mob, or is advocating “more of the same, only louder”? Even Bernie Sanders, the democratic socialist, insists the party has ignored the needs of the working class and must redirect its focus and policies and priorities. In some respects, his populism outTrumps Trump. Sorry, LTR, but you have proved once again to be an underinformed simpleton. Read and learn before spouting nonsense. By the way, it’s been several months since I sought a single example of my alleged refusal to furnish a link when requested by you. The fact is your claim was blatantly, provably dishonest. You simply lack the integrity to admit it. |
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Post by captbudman on Nov 12, 2024 20:24:33 GMT -6
To be clear, I have held the belief for over 20 years that the Democratic Party is all but irredeemable as an institution and has no interest or capability to adjust itself into any kind of constructive contributor to the course of public affairs. But -- and it's still, very very soon -- in the immediate aftermath of last night's decisive rejection of their record and agenda, I have seen a handful of committed Democrats who describe themselves as liberal, progress, or both stating that this outcome should be met with an honest, critical reflecting on what their party means and what it offers to the citizens of the United States. But so far, it's only a handful. At the moment, most of the Democratic commentators and influencers I have seen and heard are still in denial about what this election means to themselves. As for the country, all I can tell is that most of them believe today that the answer for them moving forward is "more of the same, but only louder." OK, that's out of my control but to that small group of reasonable people -- with whom I still disagree with on most issues -- I will offer this as evidence that they are correct about the need for self-assessment and self-reflection -- cite this as striking visual as part of their argurment: www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/11/05/us/elections/results-president.html(NOTE: YOU NEED TO CLICK ON THE "Shift from 2020" button to see the graphic I'm referring to) This above link is the "political shift" map in the NY Times, which is a county by county visualization of where the voters have moved in 2024 as compared to 2020. It's incredible. The Republicans did not win everywhere in this election, but the DIRECTION of political adjustment -- the "Red Shift" -- in this map is univerasal. In in every sector depicted -- EVEN IN BLUE STATES -- the move has been decisively to the rightward direction. This also crosses demographic boundaries; black voters, latino voters, young voters all moved to the right from where they were just four years ago. So, as the "more of the same, only louder" faction of the Democratic Party gears up for the fight, I can only suggest: how far further in this direction do you think the citizenry will move if you do listen to the sober members of your own party OR the American people themselves. A nice analysis, but I strongly disagree with your “more of the same, only louder” diagnosis as representing the majority sentiment of the Democratic Party in the aftermath of the November 5 wipeout. Having now read numerous electoral post mortems spoken or written by party insiders, commentators, politicians, columnists, strategists, winning and losing candidates…the prevailing mood was anything but business as usual but with amplification. From Maureen Dowd to James Carville to Richie Torres to Seth Moulton to Bernie Sanders and practically everyone in between, a new direction and focus shift was deemed imperative. Otherwise the Democrats would likely occupy electoral purgatory for the foreseeable future. At least until the inevitable and eventual overreach by Trumpism. I'm not going to hold my breath. I watched a clip of a CNN exchange were one of the talking heads talked how the public rejected men in women's sports. Instantly, one of the leftist was offended, calling the guy a bigot and demanding that he accept "the truth" that a "trans woman is a woman." The rest of the panel shook their head, agreeing with the offended leftist spokesman for the Alphabet Mafia. As long as the Dems are going to continue to push their identity politics, push sex changes on children, have their Hamasian Democrats protesting on campuses, and fight to keep illegal immigrants in America (you can expect the Dems to file lawsuits over those issues), I don't see how you'll get a "new Democrat" like Bill Clinton to come back into power without supporting all that identity politics that the voters rejected. Remember, it was Obama who rejected the working class in favor of the "future of America" being the rich white elite liberals, minorities, and especially immigrants. Once Trump was "defeated" in 2020, the Dems acted like they had their mandate to force their open borders, criminal coddling, pro-trans woke agenda on America. Do you really think they will abandon those main policy positions of the radical left? |
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Post by longtimereader on Nov 12, 2024 20:43:04 GMT -6
Those people you list have created the monster that is driving the party now, aka the woke leftist mob. They tried to use that mob as a weapon against anyone "right wing" and it has backfired. There is no way back for the Dems from the mess they created for the short term, they are reaping what they sowed. The Dems cannot alienate those woke leftist, there are too many votes to loose from those woke leftist. Cute "Trumpism" that represents the working class and American people, you really don't like Americans do you. You actually think Seth Moulton is part of, or driving, the woke leftist mob, or advocating “more of the same, only louder”? “I think Dem ocrats as a party spend too much time preaching, preaching down to people, talking down to folks and telling them this is what you need, this is what you want, rather than just getting out there on the ground and listening to everyday Americans,” Moulton told GBH News.
www.wgbh.org/news/politics/2024-11-08/rep-seth-moulton-says-being-out-of-touch-lost-democrats-the-electionYou actually think Richie Torres is part of, or driving, the woke leftist mob, or advocating “more of the same, only louder”? “Donald Trump has no greater friend than the far left, which has managed to alienate historic numbers of Latinos, Blacks, Asians, and Jews from the Democratic Party with absurdities like “Defund the Police” or “From the River to the Sea” or “Latinx.”
There is more to lose than there is to gain politically from pandering to a far left that is more representative of Twitter, Twitch, and TikTok than it is of the real world. The working class is not buying the ivory-towered nonsense that the far left is selling.”You actually think James Carville who has claimed “defund the police” are the three stupidest words in the English language is part of, or driving, the woke leftist mob, or is advocating “more of the same, only louder”? You actually think Maureen Dowd who has mercilessly eviscerated the identity politics of the progressive Left is part of, or driving, the woke leftist mob, or is advocating “more of the same, only louder”? Even Bernie Sanders, the democratic socialist, insists the party has ignored the needs of the working class and must redirect its focus and policies and priorities. In some respects, his populism outTrumps Trump. Sorry, LTR, but you have proved once again to be an underinformed simpleton. Read and learn before spouting nonsense. By the way, it’s been several months since I sought a single example of my alleged refusal to furnish a link when requested by you. The fact is your claim was blatantly, provably dishonest. You simply lack the integrity to admit it. You did not read nor understand what I wrote it seems. Those folks helped create the woke mob that they now have no control over, yet cannot offend because them because they are too big of a voting block. They only care about the woke freaks because they cost them the election. I never posted anything about "be louder" about woke BS, that's your projection. I totally forgot about you making claims and never posting links to your claims, since you never did it so it became a waste of time. It is funny how you lash out when you get pinned down, like most leftist; your ilk sure likes to dish it out but sure can't take it. Your ilk likes to claim crap without giving proof, it's a pattern that failed your ilk in this election. |
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Post by cardiological on Nov 12, 2024 21:56:43 GMT -6
You actually think Seth Moulton is part of, or driving, the woke leftist mob, or advocating “more of the same, only louder”? “I think Dem ocrats as a party spend too much time preaching, preaching down to people, talking down to folks and telling them this is what you need, this is what you want, rather than just getting out there on the ground and listening to everyday Americans,” Moulton told GBH News.
www.wgbh.org/news/politics/2024-11-08/rep-seth-moulton-says-being-out-of-touch-lost-democrats-the-electionYou actually think Richie Torres is part of, or driving, the woke leftist mob, or advocating “more of the same, only louder”? “Donald Trump has no greater friend than the far left, which has managed to alienate historic numbers of Latinos, Blacks, Asians, and Jews from the Democratic Party with absurdities like “Defund the Police” or “From the River to the Sea” or “Latinx.”
There is more to lose than there is to gain politically from pandering to a far left that is more representative of Twitter, Twitch, and TikTok than it is of the real world. The working class is not buying the ivory-towered nonsense that the far left is selling.”You actually think James Carville who has claimed “defund the police” are the three stupidest words in the English language is part of, or driving, the woke leftist mob, or is advocating “more of the same, only louder”? You actually think Maureen Dowd who has mercilessly eviscerated the identity politics of the progressive Left is part of, or driving, the woke leftist mob, or is advocating “more of the same, only louder”? Even Bernie Sanders, the democratic socialist, insists the party has ignored the needs of the working class and must redirect its focus and policies and priorities. In some respects, his populism outTrumps Trump. Sorry, LTR, but you have proved once again to be an underinformed simpleton. Read and learn before spouting nonsense. By the way, it’s been several months since I sought a single example of my alleged refusal to furnish a link when requested by you. The fact is your claim was blatantly, provably dishonest. You simply lack the integrity to admit it. You did not read nor understand what I wrote it seems. Those folks helped create the woke mob that they now have no control over, yet cannot offend because them because they are too big of a voting block. They only care about the woke freaks because they cost them the election. I never posted anything about "be louder" about woke BS, that's your projection. I totally forgot about you making claims and never posting links to your claims, since you never did it so it became a waste of time. It is funny how you lash out when you get pinned down, like most leftist; your ilk sure likes to dish it out but sure can't take it. Your ilk likes to claim crap without giving proof, it's a pattern that failed your ilk in this election. Your claim: a bald-faced lie, was that you had on numerous occasions asked me to link a claim - a purported statement of fact - and I had failed or refused to do so. I repeatedly challenged you to provide at least one example (to determine if it was a knowing failure or refusal; obviously if I wasn’t aware of a request there would be no response). You made the accusation. The onus was on you to back it up. You didn’t because you couldn’t. Instead you simply repeated an unsupported and unsupportable allegation. All of our posts are archived. Let’s see the evidence. Or admit you just made it up. |
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Post by cardiological on Nov 12, 2024 22:58:37 GMT -6
A nice analysis, but I strongly disagree with your “more of the same, only louder” diagnosis as representing the majority sentiment of the Democratic Party in the aftermath of the November 5 wipeout. Having now read numerous electoral post mortems spoken or written by party insiders, commentators, politicians, columnists, strategists, winning and losing candidates…the prevailing mood was anything but business as usual but with amplification. From Maureen Dowd to James Carville to Richie Torres to Seth Moulton to Bernie Sanders and practically everyone in between, a new direction and focus shift was deemed imperative. Otherwise the Democrats would likely occupy electoral purgatory for the foreseeable future. At least until the inevitable and eventual overreach by Trumpism. I'm not going to hold my breath. I watched a clip of a CNN exchange were one of the talking heads talked how the public rejected men in women's sports. Instantly, one of the leftist was offended, calling the guy a bigot and demanding that he accept "the truth" that a "trans woman is a woman." The rest of the panel shook their head, agreeing with the offended leftist spokesman for the Alphabet Mafia. As long as the Dems are going to continue to push their identity politics, push sex changes on children, have their Hamasian Democrats protesting on campuses, and fight to keep illegal immigrants in America (you can expect the Dems to file lawsuits over those issues), I don't see how you'll get a "new Democrat" like Bill Clinton to come back into power without supporting all that identity politics that the voters rejected. Remember, it was Obama who rejected the working class in favor of the "future of America" being the rich white elite liberals, minorities, and especially immigrants. Once Trump was "defeated" in 2020, the Dems acted like they had their mandate to force their open borders, criminal coddling, pro-trans woke agenda on America. Do you really think they will abandon those main policy positions of the radical left? Two words capt: George Gascon “Los Angeles County's newly elected district attorney said one of his first orders of business will be to regain the trust of the community after voters ousted first-term progressive District Attorney George Gascon on Tuesday, ending what critics deemed a failed progressive overhaul of the country's largest criminal justice system.”www.foxnews.com/us/los-angeles-da-elect-woke-predecessor-lost-trust-prosecutors-victims-rebuild-thatTwo more: London Breed. (SF Mayor deposed for similar reasons) That’s in California, the epicenter of left progressivism. Do you really think in the next national electoral cycle the prevailing Democratic mantra will be “what we desperately need are more criminal sensitive woke DAs and Mayors in our crime-ridden cities”? John Kasich said recently: it (wokism) is the tail that’s been wagging the dog, and it needs to stop. He’s right. And although it’s not stopped, and won’t be completely stopped, it does appear to be slowing down and voters are reevaluating its efficacy. |
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