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Post by emerald on Aug 26, 2024 10:19:03 GMT -6
My suggestion? Vote policies, not person. Do you like the idea of price controls? Taxes on unrealized capital gains? Nine different pronoun choices on job applications? Endless wars? Then Kamala is your candidate. If you can stand a few mean tweets in exchange for lower interest rates and far less government regulation of the economy, then Trump is your candidate. I don't particularly like the man either, but there's no arguing that his policies are head and shoulders above the alternative - unless you're a socialist, that is. Yes, lets vote policies. Do you think corporations that basically have a monopoly should be allowed to gouge people? Taxes on unrealized gains? If it improves their net worth then it's realized. Also, no deductions. Endless wars? Who start this whackamole middle east bullshit anyway. Hmmm...Does the name Bush ring a bell? Let me know when a Republican solves the middle east aggression. Funny how Trump just comes out and says letting Putin have the Ukraine is what he would do. Yeah, I guess there would be no war right now. If only mean tweets were the problem. Unfortunately giving a 2 trillion dollar tax cut to mostly the wealthy is the gift that keeps on giving. Hugging dictators is really an answer that is best for America. Right? Yeah, let's talk policies.****Community Notes******* 1. Trump never said he would give Ukraine to Putin; its not his to give away. 2. 91% of American tax payers saw their tax rate fall under the 2017 rate adjustment bill. The percentage of taxes paid by the wealthy rose and the percentage and actual dollar amount paid by the poor fell.Trump threatens to cut US aid to Ukraine quickly if reelected . www.politico.eu/article/donald-trump-ukraine-russia-war-threatens-cut-aid-election-2024/ The 2017 Trump Tax Law Was Skewed to the Rich. www.cbpp.org/research/federal-tax/the-2017-trump-tax-law-was-skewed-to-the-rich-expensive-and-failed-to-deliver
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Post by emerald on Aug 26, 2024 10:23:02 GMT -6
Except one party passes legislation to help the middle class and poor while the other party pursues tax cuts for the wealthy and culture wars. Yeah, they're all the same. LOL Lmfao. Ia that the party that wants 10 year old boys to be able to cut their dicks off with no parental consent? Or the party that wants to give illegals benefits? The party that doesn't want police or border security? Yeah no thanks. That's a lie. There is no surgical procedure for minorities in America. It doesn't exist. Would you have people starving to death on your streets? Or freezing? How Christian of you. Republicans want to De-fund the FBI, the IRS, the EPA, the FDA, OSHA and a whole host of other agencies. They also voted no on a border bill that was bi-partisan and touted as a very good deal for them. All because Trump said so. Yeah, no thanks.
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Post by emerald on Aug 26, 2024 10:25:28 GMT -6
dems pass legislation to make the poor and middle class MORE dependent on the government. 91% of tax paying Americans pay less in taxes under the 2017 adjustment bill Tell a starving person that they'll just have to starve and their family as well because you don't want to make them more dependent. You fucking imbecile.
The tax thing is a lie because they are expiring for the middle class and poor. So you're a liar just like your messiah Trump.
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Post by Nano on Aug 26, 2024 10:25:37 GMT -6
Lmfao. Ia that the party that wants 10 year old boys to be able to cut their dicks off with no parental consent? Or the party that wants to give illegals benefits? The party that doesn't want police or border security? Yeah no thanks. That's a lie. There is no surgical procedure for minorities in America. It doesn't exist. Would you have people starving to death on your streets? Or freezing? How Christian of you. Republicans want to De-fund the FBI, the IRS, the EPA, the FDA, OSHA and a whole host of other agencies. They also voted no on a border bill that was bi-partisan and touted as a very good deal for them. All because Trump said so. Yeah, no thanks.What is up with your font dude?
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Post by emerald on Aug 26, 2024 10:30:10 GMT -6
That's a lie. There is no surgical procedure for minorities in America. It doesn't exist. Would you have people starving to death on your streets? Or freezing? How Christian of you. Republicans want to De-fund the FBI, the IRS, the EPA, the FDA, OSHA and a whole host of other agencies. They also voted no on a border bill that was bi-partisan and touted as a very good deal for them. All because Trump said so. Yeah, no thanks. What is up with your font dude? You don't like it? It's my support for the LGBT community. LOL
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Post by Billy John Davy on Aug 26, 2024 10:33:28 GMT -6
dems pass legislation to make the poor and middle class MORE dependent on the government. 91% of tax paying Americans pay less in taxes under the 2017 adjustment bill
The tax thing is a lie because they are expiring for the middle class and poor.
Didnt Capt discuss odd, hard to read font colors with you at least once before? the candidate with 0 votes has promised to let those tax rate reductions expire FOR EVERYONE, a tax increase for 91% of American tax payers. Trump has promised to extend those tax rates.
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Post by Nano on Aug 26, 2024 10:34:27 GMT -6
What is up with your font dude? You don't like it? It's my support for the LGBT community. LOLWell, it's not readable, which i guess is good haha
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Post by momof3 on Aug 26, 2024 10:35:34 GMT -6
I’m just going to start with #1. What did Trump do to “prohibit the free exercise of religion”? Be specific. Trump, March of 2023, after adding another 30 days to his original 15 day illegal national shutdown order:" "I'd love to have it open by Easter. Wouldn't it be great to have all of the churches full? You know, the churches aren't allowed essentially to have much of a congregation there." You will note the Trump openly admitted in that statement that he had prohibited the free exercise of religion in his 2 orders. You will further recall that Trump did NOT carry through and permitted churches to be abused by the government for the remainder of his term. Parishioners, pastors, and churches experienced armed surveillance, arrests, fines, imprisonment. Shall we move to point #2? And the Democrats wanted everything shut down too. Gov. Walz closed all of the churches in Minnesota during Covid. But you do know that one can worship even if they aren’t physically in a church, don’t you? Our church held services out on the parking lot, with all of us sitting in our cars and listening to the service through our radio speakers because we got a frequency we could use. No one, absolutely no one, was prohibited from their free exercise of religion. Try again.
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Post by longtimereader on Aug 26, 2024 10:37:24 GMT -6
Trump, March of 2023, after adding another 30 days to his original 15 day illegal national shutdown order:" "I'd love to have it open by Easter. Wouldn't it be great to have all of the churches full? You know, the churches aren't allowed essentially to have much of a congregation there." You will note the Trump openly admitted in that statement that he had prohibited the free exercise of religion in his 2 orders. You will further recall that Trump did NOT carry through and permitted churches to be abused by the government for the remainder of his term. Parishioners, pastors, and churches experienced armed surveillance, arrests, fines, imprisonment. Shall we move to point #2? And the Democrats wanted everything shut down too. Gov. Walz closed all of the churches in Minnesota during Covid. But you do know that one can worship even if they aren’t physically in a church, don’t you? Our church held services out on the parking lot, with all of us sitting in our cars and listening to the service through our radio speakers because we got a frequency we could use. No one, absolutely no one, was prohibited from their free exercise of religion. Try again. If you were in Ky the Governor had people arrested for doing just what you mention there. Oh wait he's a Dem so I guess that is expected and OK with some.
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Post by emerald on Aug 26, 2024 10:44:35 GMT -6
I think you all are missing the big picture here. We lost over a million Americans to covid and it could have been a hell of a lot worse. The covid response was botched and cost lives. It could have cost 10's of millions of lives. We were very lucky. Obama had a pandemic response team all set up for Trump and warned him of the dangers. As soon as he was in office he disbanded them. He has blood on his hands. Anti-vaxxers are fruit loop crazy. Just look at RFK Jr. His shenanigans in Samoa(I think it was) cost many lives by convincing people not to vaccinate their kids against measles(again, I think it was). Real children died because of his bullshit. Vaccinations work for a reason, they are tried and true. Only fools and weak minds deny them.
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Post by gotmewrong on Aug 26, 2024 10:45:55 GMT -6
I think you all are missing the big picture here. We lost over a million Americans to covid and it could have been a hell of a lot worse. The covid response was botched and cost lives. It could have cost 10's of millions of lives. We were very lucky. Obama had a pandemic response team all set up for Trump and warned him of the dangers. As soon as he was in office he disbanded them. He has blood on his hands. Anti-vaxxers are fruit loop crazy. Just look at RFK Jr. His shenanigans in Samoa(I think it was) cost many lives by convincing people not to vaccinate their kids against measles(again, I think it was). Real children died because of his bullshit. Vaccinations work for a reason, they are tried and true. Only fools and weak minds deny them. More deaths under Biden.
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Post by momof3 on Aug 26, 2024 10:47:23 GMT -6
I think you all are missing the big picture here. We lost over a million Americans to covid and it could have been a hell of a lot worse. The covid response was botched and cost lives. It could have cost 10's of millions of lives. We were very lucky. Obama had a pandemic response team all set up for Trump and warned him of the dangers. As soon as he was in office he disbanded them. He has blood on his hands. Anti-vaxxers are fruit loop crazy. Just look at RFK Jr. His shenanigans in Samoa(I think it was) cost many lives by convincing people not to vaccinate their kids against measles(again, I think it was). Real children died because of his bullshit. Vaccinations work for a reason, they are tried and true. Only fools and weak minds deny them. More people died of Covid in 2021 than 2020. I suppose that was Trump’s fault too, huh? www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2021/11/22/covid-death-toll-vaccine-mandate-united-states/8712846002/
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Post by Starbuck on Aug 26, 2024 12:21:39 GMT -6
Clarify. Are you attempting to defend Trump's abuses by stating that Biden continued them? Hindsight on Covid is getting stupid at this point. I give Trump some slack for Covid since NO ONE KNEW what was going on, so was there an overreaction yes. I bitched high and low about the abuse of power being done on the PD forum, I got all kinds of grief for it. Did Trump stop that overreaction later along with Republican Governors, yes. Actually, he attacked the governors of Georgia, Florida, and Texas. He only changed his tune when he saw what his own stupidity and bad judgment was doing to damage his re-election campaign. Disqualifier.
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Post by Starbuck on Aug 26, 2024 12:26:17 GMT -6
Trump, March of 2023, after adding another 30 days to his original 15 day illegal national shutdown order:" "I'd love to have it open by Easter. Wouldn't it be great to have all of the churches full? You know, the churches aren't allowed essentially to have much of a congregation there." You will note the Trump openly admitted in that statement that he had prohibited the free exercise of religion in his 2 orders. You will further recall that Trump did NOT carry through and permitted churches to be abused by the government for the remainder of his term. Parishioners, pastors, and churches experienced armed surveillance, arrests, fines, imprisonment. Shall we move to point #2? And the Democrats wanted everything shut down too. Gov. Walz closed all of the churches in Minnesota during Covid. But you do know that one can worship even if they aren’t physically in a church, don’t you? Our church held services out on the parking lot, with all of us sitting in our cars and listening to the service through our radio speakers because we got a frequency we could use. No one, absolutely no one, was prohibited from their free exercise of religion. Try again. One, that the DEMs followed Trump's lead is not exactly a ringing endorsement on your part. Two, parishioners, pastors, and churches experienced armed surveillance, arrests, fines, imprisonment (and clergy was even refused the opportunity to provide last rites, pray with members of their flock who were is hospitals, or comfort those who lost loved ones). Three, for you to claim "absolutely no one was prohibited from their free exercise of religion" is utterly false and you know that.
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Post by longtimereader on Aug 26, 2024 12:26:32 GMT -6
Hindsight on Covid is getting stupid at this point. I give Trump some slack for Covid since NO ONE KNEW what was going on, so was there an overreaction yes. I bitched high and low about the abuse of power being done on the PD forum, I got all kinds of grief for it. Did Trump stop that overreaction later along with Republican Governors, yes. Actually, he attacked the governors of Georgia, Florida, and Texas. He only changed his tune when he saw what his own stupidity and bad judgment was doing to damage his re-election campaign. Disqualifier. He changed his tune which I am fine with. Again hindsight is 20/20 that whole time was a cluster. Just look above at what folks like emerald really craved which was total lock down and total government control.
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